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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 7, 2015 11:32am
I've never heard anyone else discuss it besides Greenberg, but reverse the odds for the draft. The first team to miss out on the playoffs has best odds to land top pick. That would give every team incentive to try and make playoffs and eliminate tanking, if it exists.
I think best idea is to take top twelve teams regardless of location and do 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, etc.
I think best idea is to take top twelve teams regardless of location and do 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, etc.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 7, 2015 11:50am
You can't just reverse the lottery. Bad teams would have no chance of getting better. Completely punishes teams who are simply bad and not tanking.
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Sonofanump
Feb 7, 2015 12:24pm
You can't take 12 teams and have the top four play in the first round. The third round would have 3 teams.friendfromlowry;1703984 wrote:I think best idea is to take top twelve teams regardless of location and do 1-12, 2-11, 3-10, etc.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 7, 2015 3:16pm
No chance? Teams like Minnesota and Sacramento have been lost at sea for years despite consistently being in the lottery.Laley23;1703987 wrote:You can't just reverse the lottery. Bad teams would have no chance of getting better. Completely punishes teams who are simply bad and not tanking.
Yeah, my bad. I just think they need to reduce it from 16 teams, though.Sonofanump;1703989 wrote:You can't take 12 teams and have the top four play in the first round. The third round would have 3 teams.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 7, 2015 3:19pm
And imagine how bad they would be without Love all those years or Cousins. Cause those guys wouldn't be on those teams.friendfromlowry;1704026 wrote:No chance? Teams like Minnesota and Sacramento have been lost at sea for years despite consistently being in the lottery.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Feb 7, 2015 4:07pm
Unless you are giving out byes, it is 16 or 8. 8 is too little, IMO. 16 is fine, it just needs to be the best 16 teams. Not 8 and 8.friendfromlowry;1704026 wrote:Yeah, my bad. I just think they need to reduce it from 16 teams, though.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Feb 7, 2015 5:21pm
And owners wouldn't go for the byes as they lose a shit ton of revenue.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Feb 7, 2015 6:00pm
If they are going to eliminate playoffs by conference then they need to do reseeding every round imo.
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 7, 2015 8:38pm
wildcats20;1704036 wrote:Unless you are giving out byes, it is 16 or 8. 8 is too little, IMO. 16 is fine, it just needs to be the best 16 teams. Not 8 and 8.
I forgot about the rule of eight. I agree eight is too few and byes gets complicated. Not to mention the teams that get byes could potentially be off for like two weeks while a best-of-7 series plays out.Laley23;1704048 wrote:And owners wouldn't go for the byes as they lose a shit ton of revenue.
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Sonofanump
Feb 8, 2015 9:53am
Cross country flights across time zones in the first two rounds makes no sense to me. I still think you need conferences for that, but allow the top 16 in and set the east and west after that.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 9, 2015 11:33am
Yeah, not buying having a bye. You can be off too long.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Feb 9, 2015 12:32pm
I like this idea a lotSonofanump;1704128 wrote:Cross country flights across time zones in the first two rounds makes no sense to me. I still think you need conferences for that, but allow the top 16 in and set the east and west after that.

HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Feb 9, 2015 2:53pm
...and I'm not buying ( and have never bought in) to the shakedown of season ticket holders...making them buy playoff priced tickets to watch a #1 seed pummel an#8 seed to an early exit.thavoice;1704426 wrote:Yeah, not buying having a bye. You can be off too long.
You play an entire season of a balanced schedule....so how does anyone pretend that an 8 seed( or even a #7) has a chance of a snowball in hell? Of course, it is ALL about money.
You could eliminate 4 or 6 teams in the "playoffs" right off the top and nobody would miss it from a competition standpoint.
you could take 5 teams from each conference, and have #4 play #5 to play in...and use a 2 out of 3 series for the first round...that way, the bye teams aren't off that long.
No chance in hell of this happening.....$$$$$$$.....so season ticket holders get it up the wazoo.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Feb 9, 2015 3:22pm
Yeah..they are not gonna ever go with less games.HitsRus;1704485 wrote:...and I'm not buying ( and have never bought in) to the shakedown of season ticket holders...making them buy playoff priced tickets to watch a #1 seed pummel an#8 seed to an early exit.
You play an entire season of a balanced schedule....so how does anyone pretend that an 8 seed( or even a #7) has a chance of a snowball in hell? Of course, it is ALL about money.
You could eliminate 4 or 6 teams in the "playoffs" right off the top and nobody would miss it from a competition standpoint.
you could take 5 teams from each conference, and have #4 play #5 to play in...and use a 2 out of 3 series for the first round...that way, the bye teams aren't off that long.
No chance in hell of this happening.....$$$$$$$.....so season ticket holders get it up the wazoo.
Up until this year I used to be in with Steelers season tix with my buddies and NFL fans get hosed with having to pay for preseason games. Once the playoffs roll around you can choose to get the playoff tix or not. I am not sure if you can turn down lets say the WC and next game and just say yes to the AFC championship game. Wonder if in the NBA you can turn down playoff tix until they get later down the road.
No way I would blow that extra jack on early round games.
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Sonofanump
Feb 9, 2015 5:58pm
HitsRus;1704485 wrote:....so how does anyone pretend that an 8 seed( or even a #7) has a chance of a snowball in hell?

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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Feb 10, 2015 12:19am
It almost happened last year. It did happen in 2012 and 2011.HitsRus;1704485 wrote:...and I'm not buying ( and have never bought in) to the shakedown of season ticket holders...making them buy playoff priced tickets to watch a #1 seed pummel an#8 seed to an early exit.
You play an entire season of a balanced schedule....so how does anyone pretend that an 8 seed( or even a #7) has a chance of a snowball in hell? Of course, it is ALL about money.
You could eliminate 4 or 6 teams in the "playoffs" right off the top and nobody would miss it from a competition standpoint.
you could take 5 teams from each conference, and have #4 play #5 to play in...and use a 2 out of 3 series for the first round...that way, the bye teams aren't off that long.
No chance in hell of this happening.....$$$$$$$.....so season ticket holders get it up the wazoo.