Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Nov 21, 2015 7:11pm
So what is the crazy scenario needed?
ND lose to Stanford
Stanford lose in PAC 12 title game
Penn St over Mich St
OSU over Mich
Iowa win until B1G title game and then get beat by OSU
Fla St over Florida
Florida over Bama
UNC over Clemson
Baylor over Ok St
Ok St over Oklahoma
TCU over Baylor
Ohio State #1 seed in the playoffs [emoji3]
ND lose to Stanford
Stanford lose in PAC 12 title game
Penn St over Mich St
OSU over Mich
Iowa win until B1G title game and then get beat by OSU
Fla St over Florida
Florida over Bama
UNC over Clemson
Baylor over Ok St
Ok St over Oklahoma
TCU over Baylor
Ohio State #1 seed in the playoffs [emoji3]
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Nov 21, 2015 8:14pm
"I deserve more than 11 (12) carries," Elliott said. "I really do. I can't speak for the playcaller. I don't know what was going on."- Zeke
He then declared for the draft, along with Cardale
He then declared for the draft, along with Cardale
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 21, 2015 8:35pm
Zeek after the game.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 21, 2015 8:36pm
Good, play calling was ass.
Time to drink heavily.
Time to drink heavily.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 21, 2015 10:07pm
I understand his being disappointed. I think he should not have said that to the media.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Nov 21, 2015 10:13pm
Not with games left the season. How do you really go from there?
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Nov 21, 2015 10:46pm
Apologize to him and give him the ball 25 times next week.Azubuike24;1765004 wrote:Not with games left the season. How do you really go from there?
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 21, 2015 10:54pm
Zeke is dead on. He might be the most under used player in the country. How do you have a 3rd and 2 and he doesnt get the ball?
He is right, players didnt lose that game. Coaches did
He is right, players didnt lose that game. Coaches did
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 21, 2015 11:05pm
Yeah not a good thing to say even if he's right. Keep that internal.FatHobbit;1764999 wrote:I understand his being disappointed. I think he should not have said that to the media.
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 21, 2015 11:13pm
Naaa.... call them out. Say what every one is thinking....obvious that he coaches play calling cost Jones millions and Zeke the heisman.sleeper;1765013 wrote:Yeah not a good thing to say even if he's right. Keep that internal.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Nov 21, 2015 11:30pm
You praise in public and criticize in private. I think Zeke just made a mistake in an emotional situation. I am concerned moving forward that we seem to have several players more interested in the NFL than beating tsun and winning a bowl game.Spock;1765014 wrote:Naaa.... call them out. Say what every one is thinking....obvious that he coaches play calling cost Jones millions and Zeke the heisman.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 22, 2015 12:51am
Call them out in private. Taking internal things public can destroy chemistry and cause the team to collapse. This was a poor choice by Zeek, who usually says and does all the right things.Spock;1765014 wrote:Naaa.... call them out. Say what every one is thinking....obvious that he coaches play calling cost Jones millions and Zeke the heisman.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 22, 2015 8:34am
Throw the fucking football downfield. Seriously the worst play calling I have ever seen. We basically ran the spread like a JV team with a fast QB
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 22, 2015 8:45am
While he's 100% right in his assessment, you can't call your coaches out in public, especially with at least two more games to be played ... No doubt, a bowl game and MICHIGAN. And you certainly don't declare for the NFL. That's just not fair to your teammates. I'm sure he's going to regret that in the morning and apologize.... I sure as hell hope he doesn't double down on that. Obviously, an emotional loss 
Spock
Posts: 2,853
Nov 22, 2015 8:57am
He is basically a professional athlete now. Elite college players are being fleeced for millions with nothing in return but a "free education". OSU makes millions off of him.HitsRus;1765031 wrote:While he's 100% right in his assessment, you can't call your coaches out in public, especially with at least two more games to be played ... No doubt, a bowl game and MICHIGAN. And you certainly don't declare for the NFL. That's just not fair to your teammates. I'm sure he's going to regret that in the morning and apologize.... I sure as hell hope he doesn't double down on that. Obviously, an emotional loss
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 22, 2015 9:04am
As far as the game goes, that was top 5 of the worst games I've attended in person, of any team in any sport (and at my age, I've been to a lot of them).... Nothing like sitting on a cold rain and wind to watch your favorite team lay an egg in a huge game.
I'll say this also, as a season ticket holding alumnus who travels half the state to go to the games, I don't mind one 8 pm game a year early in the season, but two, especially in November?(Minnesota). Late November games outdoors should be played early, to optimize the chance for better game conditions.
I'll say this also, as a season ticket holding alumnus who travels half the state to go to the games, I don't mind one 8 pm game a year early in the season, but two, especially in November?(Minnesota). Late November games outdoors should be played early, to optimize the chance for better game conditions.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 22, 2015 9:07am
You don't have to tell me that... I've ranted many a time on the NCAA and what it's become....including my previous post, because that is what drives the insane start times.Spock;1765032 wrote:He is basically a professional athlete now. Elite college players are being fleeced for millions with nothing in return but a "free education". OSU makes millions off of him.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Nov 22, 2015 9:15am
Let me clarify a bit before someone jumps my shit....D1 college football has morphed into a pro game and a money grab. I know it'll never get back to the traditional ways of college amateur athletics ...it doesn't mean I have to like it or that I can't mourn the loss.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 22, 2015 11:00am
I'd probably care more about EZE calling out the coaches' shitty play-calling as a bad thing that should have been private, if not for the fact that during the game, the announcers were essentially predicting calls before they were made and harping on how unimaginative and predictable things were. When the entire country is basically like "WTF?!?!?" looking at a team's offensive game plan, I don't have much of a beef with a nearly-ignored star player voicing that sentiment out loud.
It was really one of the more mind-boggling things I'd seen. MSU was selling out to stop Barrett and OSU never reacted to that and just seemed to be in this "They don't have their starting QB; we got this." mindset and kept playing into their hands. If not for defense and special teams setting up both their TDs, that would have been a complete mauling.
It was really one of the more mind-boggling things I'd seen. MSU was selling out to stop Barrett and OSU never reacted to that and just seemed to be in this "They don't have their starting QB; we got this." mindset and kept playing into their hands. If not for defense and special teams setting up both their TDs, that would have been a complete mauling.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 22, 2015 12:03pm
No one is forcing any college football player to take the deal. They are welcome to spend 3 years getting ready for the NFL.Spock;1765032 wrote:He is basically a professional athlete now. Elite college players are being fleeced for millions with nothing in return but a "free education". OSU makes millions off of him.
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slingshot4ever
Posts: 4,085
Nov 22, 2015 12:07pm
OSU at 8 in coaches poll
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Nov 22, 2015 12:45pm
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 22, 2015 12:56pm
I still believe. PSU beating MSU isn't far fetched and we can beat Michigan.
FatHobbit
Posts: 8,651
Nov 22, 2015 1:52pm
Besides them handing us two touchdowns, we didn't do shit offensively. Zeke may have only had 12 touches, but the entire team only had 45. (17 rushes by JT and Braxton, 16 passes )Heretic;1765049 wrote:If not for defense and special teams setting up both their TDs, that would have been a complete mauling.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Nov 22, 2015 1:54pm
Totally agree with you. It's not that it was bad, it's that it was atrocious. I understand going for short passes and runs in the first half but the last 1.5 quarters it was completely dry. Just terrible terrible play calling. I guarantee if you gave me a sheet I could do better than 132 yards of OHeretic;1765049 wrote:I'd probably care more about EZE calling out the coaches' shitty play-calling as a bad thing that should have been private, if not for the fact that during the game, the announcers were essentially predicting calls before they were made and harping on how unimaginative and predictable things were. When the entire country is basically like "WTF?!?!?" looking at a team's offensive game plan, I don't have much of a beef with a nearly-ignored star player voicing that sentiment out loud.
It was really one of the more mind-boggling things I'd seen. MSU was selling out to stop Barrett and OSU never reacted to that and just seemed to be in this "They don't have their starting QB; we got this." mindset and kept playing into their hands. If not for defense and special teams setting up both their TDs, that would have been a complete mauling.