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Footwedge

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Feb 2, 2015 10:13pm

thavoice;1702333 wrote:Top 6 rushing. All time. Some things just pretty much make it automatic in getting in the HoF.

All other things equal, Pete Rose would be in the HoF, being the hit king and all. He was a pure singles guy. Only hit .303 in his career and isl ike 150th in career avg.

3.9 yards per carry. Do you have any idea how poor that is? It's bad...really bad in fact.

If you dont thimk there's a Pittspuke HUOF bias, then you might want to revisit the inductees over the past 3 decades.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Feb 2, 2015 10:17pm

Please fuck off from this thread.

Actually, let's go with this site all together.

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Footwedge

Posts: 9,265

Feb 2, 2015 10:29pm

Commander of Awesome;1702332 wrote:Pace as well. Pace not being a HoF is terrible. Top 3 LT to ever play the game IMO. Is the bus even Top 20 RB? lolno

RBs better than the Bus:

Jim Brown
Gayle Sayers
Barry Sanders
LT
Eric Dickerson
Earl Campbell
Marshall Faulk
OJ Simpson
Emitt Smith
Walter Peyton
Adrian Peterson
Edgerrin James
Tony Dorsett
Franco Harris
Marcus Allen
Curtis Martin
Preist Holmes
Jamal Lewis
Shaun Alexander
Leroy Kelly
Marion Motley
Marshawn Lynch
Frank Gore
Bo Jackson

LTs better than Pace:
Maybe Walter Jones
Maybe Ogden
/list

good list but there were plenty more. John Henry Johnson was a lot better...so was Jimmy Taylor. Willie Gallimore much better than Bettis. Could go on. Hell. give me Franco's college teammate, Lydell Mitchell over Bettis. The list is endless. Bobby Mitchell was better when he played running back.

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Feb 3, 2015 10:46am

Good lord, Foot is spreading his utter idiocy here since he can't in the regular Browns thread. Great. Now, let's watch him harp on one stat for ages while ignoring every last bit of evidence working against him. Such as how that YPG is dropped down a couple notches by things like the one year where the idiot Rams coach essentially let him go to Pittsburgh because he wanted to convert him to FB...or how the end of his career had him being a short-yardage back, so his YPG then was sucky. Or, as said before, top 6 all-time in rushing, which is doubly impressive given that large backs of his ilk tended to have fairly short primes, so just having that long of a career was impressive.

I mean, if you want to say that him getting in before Pace is questionable, I wouldn't disagree. But to say he simply doesn't belong, well, that's just Foot being Foot. HOT TAKES AND NO BRAINS!!!!

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thavoice

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Feb 3, 2015 11:31am

Footwedge;1702462 wrote:3.9 yards per carry. Do you have any idea how poor that is? It's bad...really bad in fact.

If you dont thimk there's a Pittspuke HUOF bias, then you might want to revisit the inductees over the past 3 decades.

So if your johnny mandel finishes his career as the 6th most yards in NFL history, but his YPC isnt very good, you would keep him out of the HoF?

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Feb 3, 2015 11:42am

Ironman92;1702441 wrote:I know you are too young to remember Walter Payton.....but negs on the "Peyton"

lol my bad on the Peyton.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Feb 3, 2015 11:46am

Ironman92;1702453 wrote:Bo Jackson played 38 career games and never rushed for a 1,000 or reached 3,000 for his career.....he was fucking awesome and no one like him more than I do, but I can't say he had a better career than Bettis. Similar is Gale Sayers....68 career games 132 in career rushing yards.

I just think you have to play longer than they did...SUCKS those two had career ending injuries.

Didn't Bo never play more than 10 games in a season though due to baseball? The guy was a fucking beast, avg almost 5.5 yds per carry. I agree he doesn't have the HoF #s or longevity behind him, but I think he's a better player was more of my point. Same with Sayers.

Terry_Tate;1702457 wrote:Doesn't have high career numbers yet but gotta throw Jamaal Charles in there.

Charles is in the discussion, but don't think he's HoF material yet. Same with Shady McCoy who I also thought about (and would probably rank higher than Bettis as well).

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Footwedge

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Feb 4, 2015 12:52am

thavoice;1702567 wrote:So if your johnny mandel finishes his career as the 6th most yards in NFL history, but his YPC isnt very good, you would keep him out of the HoF?

Absolutely. You need be more than a little above average to make the Hall. Jerome Bettis a Hall of Famer? As Mike Dimato form the Nissan dealership would say "are you kiddin me?

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Footwedge

Posts: 9,265

Feb 4, 2015 12:57am

Heretic;1702545 wrote:Good lord, Foot is spreading his utter idiocy here since he can't in the regular Browns thread. Great. Now, let's watch him harp on one stat for ages while ignoring every last bit of evidence working against him. Such as how that YPG is dropped down a couple notches by things like the one year where the idiot Rams coach essentially let him go to Pittsburgh because he wanted to convert him to FB...or how the end of his career had him being a short-yardage back, so his YPG then was sucky. Or, as said before, top 6 all-time in rushing, which is doubly impressive given that large backs of his ilk tended to have fairly short primes, so just having that long of a career was impressive.

I mean, if you want to say that him getting in before Pace is questionable, I wouldn't disagree. But to say he simply doesn't belong, well, that's just Foot being Foot. HOT TAKES AND NO BRAINS!!!!

Good Gawd yall making excuses for his lame 3.9 ypc. You've outdone yourself Lunatic. Jerome Bettis was a volume shooter.

Pittsburgh fans are so frickin blind and clueless. There are other Steelers that don't belong either.

Heretic

Posts: 18,820

Feb 4, 2015 9:44am

Footwedge;1702848 wrote:Good Gawd yall making excuses for his lame 3.9 ypc. You've outdone yourself Lunatic. Jerome Bettis was a volume shooter.

Pittsburgh fans are so frickin blind and clueless. There are other Steelers that don't belong either.

And you're a fucking idiot who's clueless about virtually every single thing you talk about concerning sports. Go listen to more moronic talk radio to get told your next opinion.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Feb 4, 2015 9:51am

Now all we need to do is get iqqy to post here and as Browns fans, our work is done. Muhahaha

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Feb 4, 2015 9:54am

I blocked them both, but it just sucks when you get the alert on Tapatalk and these fuckheads are the ones bumping the thread.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Feb 4, 2015 10:36am

Automatik;1702908 wrote:I blocked them both, but it just sucks when you get the alert on Tapatalk and these fuckheads are the ones bumping the thread.

I stopped getting tapatalk alerts, what gives?

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thavoice

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Feb 4, 2015 11:18am

Footwedge;1702847 wrote:Absolutely. You need be more than a little above average to make the Hall. Jerome Bettis a Hall of Famer? As Mike Dimato form the Nissan dealership would say "are you kiddin me?

and 6th ALL time rushing in yards is not a little above average?

Ironman92

Posts: 49,363

Feb 23, 2015 9:20pm

I hope they go after Jalen Collins in the draft. Size and speed.

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thavoice

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Mar 26, 2015 12:16pm

Tomlin suggesting a 2 pt convo from the 1, and EP from the 15.

No more word on TP.

Deangelo williams to replace bell when he is suspended.

James Harrison and Heywood bey will be back.

Automatik

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Mar 26, 2015 12:18pm

Ironman92;1707666 wrote:I hope they go after Jalen Collins in the draft. Size and speed.

Yes please.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 26, 2015 12:22pm

Commander of Awesome;1702332 wrote:Pace as well. Pace not being a HoF is terrible. Top 3 LT to ever play the game IMO. Is the bus even Top 20 RB? lolno

RBs better than the Bus:

Jim Brown
Gayle Sayers
Barry Sanders
LT
Eric Dickerson
Earl Campbell
Marshall Faulk
OJ Simpson
Emitt Smith
Walter Peyton
Adrian Peterson
Edgerrin James
Tony Dorsett
Franco Harris
Marcus Allen
Curtis Martin
Preist Holmes
Jamal Lewis
Shaun Alexander
Leroy Kelly
Marion Motley
Marshawn Lynch
Frank Gore
Bo Jackson

LTs better than Pace:
Maybe Walter Jones
Maybe Ogden
/list

Munoz is the best LT of all time, imo.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Apr 9, 2015 10:09am

Bell will be suspended 3 games, aims to appeal. I'm guessing it gets dropped to 2.

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thavoice

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Apr 9, 2015 11:24am

Automatik;1720207 wrote:Bell will be suspended 3 games, aims to appeal. I'm guessing it gets dropped to 2.

Should stay at 3. I know blount only got one, but he wasnt driving. GUess we have to lookat what other DUI's have received, and then add more for it being an illegal substance. I think he shoulda been gone for 4 games.

Automatik

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Apr 9, 2015 11:49am

I wonder how this will affect fantasy drafts. Many have him listed as the top pick.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Apr 9, 2015 12:01pm

Automatik;1720246 wrote:I wonder how this will affect fantasy drafts. Many have him listed as the top pick.

He'll still be a top pick IMO. I expect him to come in and have a Gordon like impact (gordon from 2 seasons ago where he came in and pwned). Bell's a stud, sure fire HoFer with an improved Oline and even better WRs to take men out of the box. Prob the best back we've seen in this league since Jim Brown.

Automatik

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Apr 9, 2015 12:02pm

You're feisty this morning!

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thavoice

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Apr 9, 2015 12:11pm

Commander of Awesome;1720258 wrote:He'll still be a top pick IMO. I expect him to come in and have a Gordon like impact (gordon from 2 seasons ago where he came in and pwned). Bell's a stud, sure fire HoFer with an improved Oline and even better WRs to take men out of the box. Prob the best back we've seen in this league since Jim Brown.

Good one.

I think he still goes high in the drafts. Pun intended.
Just not many RB's anymore who play all 3 downs and can run it and catch it.

Automatik

Posts: 14,632

Apr 9, 2015 10:28pm

Polamalu retires. Sad day. One of the best to ever do it.