BoatShoes;1706260 wrote:You have missed the point. After World War I the Carthaginian Peace imposed on Germany by the Allies, in conjunction with the Fixed Exchange and deflationary policy implemented by Heinrich Bruning, caused widespread suffering and mass unemployment for the German people. As a result, the people threw out the moderate social democrats and turned to the radical ideas of the communists and the fascists with the fascists eventually winning out and turning an otherwise normal nation of people just like you and me in any other era into a murderous war machine.

The social alienation that comes from mass unemployment and economic dislocation allows otherwise normal human beings to be seduced by the false promises and hopes of false prophets.

But you're right. Let's just start rounding up the brown people and waive the American flag.

I wonder what a world might be like where the people who lust for war so bad might care half as much about all of the innocent people killed on our own soil in similar fashion.

28 innocent American children killed by a nut case in America. Do Nothing Cus Muh Freedom.

21 innocents killed in a far away land by nut cases. Write blank checks, ignore the U.N., find the balls and send young Americans to die doing so cus muh false manichaean worldview.

QuakerOats;1706627 wrote:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/16/cal-thomas-barack-obama-americas-nero/

well stated.

Stop reading when he suggested Obama be more like FDR when he asked Congress to declare war after the then biggest attack on American soil.

Glory Days;1706739 wrote:

The exception that proves the rule. Plenty of otherwise prosperous Germans like my ancestors fell for the seduction of German Nationalism too like a otherwise fine Muslims fall for the seduction of Jihad.

The Wahhabist propaganda that is what is used to justify this sort of terrorism is very similar to the Master Race propaganda of the Nazi's. Sure, it latches onto the minds of some folks who are not otherwise alienated or disillusioned but mass alienation is what is what allows for mass acceptance of deranged ideology.

These nutjobs want nothing more than for us to buy into the idea that it is the West vs. Islam. This is the exact story that ISIS spreads in its magazine Dabiq...that they are going to battle the West in Damascus where Jesus is going to come back for Armageddon.

majorspark;1706475 wrote:
The world is governed by the aggressive use of force. Economic and militarily. That is a fact.

No it isn't. And, that is not the only thing Rush got wrong in that book.

Why is nobody talking about the holocausts that have occurred in Africa that are just as evil and horrific as what is going on in Iraq. Why do you not want to send you Americans to die for that? Why is everyone all of sudden pretending like there has not been atrocious evils going on that America could have stopped?

majorspark;1706475 wrote:The main reason Germany turned to the NAZI party was nationalism. The Versailles treaty ending WWI was considered by most Germans a humiliating document. They were forced to surrender territory and colonies some rich in natural resources and left many Germans citizens of a foreign nation.

This sounds strikingly similar to the Russians today. But anyways weren't you gloating on a thread how Obama is playing chess and Putin is playing checkers by shit canning the Russian economy? Shouldn't we be trying to help them? You know so they don't want to kill people.

It was not just Nationalism. It was White Nationalism that got millions of otherwise normal Germans to by into the false ideology that they were a master race destined for greatness and millions of these otherwise normal Germans committed horrible atrocities in the name of this insane cause. The alienation from the economic conditions placed on them by the Allies created the conditions for this to spread, not just into the minds of a few deranged individuals, but to an entire People.

After the war, it was not until Henri Tajfel's pioneering work on social psychology that people came around to the idea that there was not something inherent in German's that made them this way.

And your analogy with Russia is not a good one. The world community is offering Russia a way out and would ease the pain on its people in an instant. The world gave them German's no such deal and they just took more and more such as the French occupying the Ruhr.

In other words, we are trying to help the Russians. The world was not trying to help the Germans and those conditions persisted for years and years and years.

BoatShoes;1706770 wrote:No it isn't. And, that is not the only thing Rush got wrong in that book.

Yes it is. And Rush gets a lot of things wrong.

BoatShoes;1706770 wrote:Why is nobody talking about the holocausts that have occurred in Africa that are just as evil and horrific as what is going on in Iraq. Why do you not want to send you Americans to die for that? Why is everyone all of sudden pretending like there has not been atrocious evils going on that America could have stopped?

I'd be willing to unleash hell on Boko Haram. Evil that should be dealt with but ISIS is actively trying to form a state to propagate their evil. There is a bit of a priority there.

steubbigred;1706274 wrote:these people are an uneducated hypocritical mob....the germans and japanese were and, are are more intelligent by far than these filthy pigs .... the ss was evil and the gestapo was evil ... the germans and japanese were real warriors though .. they were brave and a true adversary even though the ss made these devils look like boy scouts when it came to killing the jewish people.... these filthy pigs are cowards and terrorists .. they can't just fight it out on the battle field .. they have to murder women and children and burn prisoners alive..all in the name of satan.....the devils armies are on the march ... we christians have the duty to protect the jews and every other faith against these monsters ...they want total genocide..

ISIS is sick and depraved and beyond comprehension with how deranged and evil they are...but the Nazi's were right with them.

No, they do it in the name of Allah and want nothing more than the Christian v. Muslim nonsense. Funny, you too think this is Armageddon and that is exactly what they want. They get people to join by offering them meaning in their life because they will be fighting the Christians in Damascus when Jesus returns.

How ridiculous is it, in 2015, we still have people murdering one another over disagreements about how, when and why a legend from history is going to reappear?

Also, why do Christians not have a duty to protect all of the Africans who have been slaughtered? What about the millions who have been murdered in North Korea (Oh yeah Nuclear Weapons undermine our good Christian Duty. What was I thinking).

I'd be willing to unleash hell on Boko Haram. Evil that should be dealt with but ISIS is actively trying to form a state to propagate their evil. There is a bit of a priority there.[/QUOTE]

^There is only priority because ISIS is on CNN all day while the African holocausts have been ignored. ISIS is no where close to forming a "state".

HitsRus;1706267 wrote:^^^^especially if it kept re-occurring day after day after day all across the world....oh, wait!

Nero golfs while the world burns.

Oh wait, nothing even close to the horror of the Marine Bombing has happened while Nero was golfing. But I suppose it might make you feel better if he was landing on aircraft carriers in jumpsuits.

Oh, what you mean is that people in far away lands are doing horrible things to one another and by golly if only Obama might act a little tougher and not be so weak the bad people would stop doing awful things! Like these bad people would never do something like fly planes into buildings on American soil if we had a real ma in the White House who clears brush instead of golfs!

BoatShoes;1706774 wrote:There is only priority because ISIS is on CNN all day while the African holocausts have been ignored. ISIS is no where close to forming a "state".

You tend to get on CNN when you produce videos of your atrocities. I'm betting Boko Haram gets more priority if they do the same. But I guess your right we should just leave these shit bags alone.

bases_loaded;1706275 wrote:http://abcnews.go.com/International/officials-fear-syrian-refugees-pose-threat-us/story?id=28930114

Barrack HUSSEIN Obama...They didn't even try to hide it, instead they created a culture that questioning anything about the man would be deemed racist. Fuck this guy and anyone who supports him.

LoL.

Yes. You're right. President Obama doesn't actually want Syrian women and children who are being slaughtered by evil people like ISIS to be able to escape. He actually wants to use this action as cover to let ISIS into the United States so they can start killing Americans. You are spot on.

majorspark;1706475 wrote:
Many industrialized nations during that time period suffered from mass unemployment in one degree or another. Including the US. Most did not get riled up to invade their neighbors and follow false prophets.

The Germans were unique because they were being crushed by the Allies and the deflationary economic policies enacted by Bruning were extreme even by the Depression's standards.

The U.S. had a depression but it wasn't being forced into an even worse one by Reparations owed to Canada. Canada did not invade the Rust Belt and take over American Industry. You did not have Canadians demanding payment from the Americans in foreign exchange, etc. etc.

And this is the sort of Us vs. Them propaganda that ISIS spews to get recruits. They write in their magazine that the Christian West oppresses them and invades their lands and occupies them and that Islam will be restored to the Caliphate as Jesus returns at the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus. This is just like the Nazi's calling for the restoration of the Fatherland which has been brought to its knees by non-Aryans. And so, the Germans began expunging their land of non-Aryans (Jews in particular) just as ISIS expunges Christians, inadequately extreme Muslims, and other ethnic groups.

In other words...it takes unique circumstances for extreme propaganda to take hold and it is a mistake to think that this is simply "good vs. evil" Everybody thought the Japanese were inherently evil or deranged in some way. For instance, as horrific as everything that ISIS has done so far has been, the Rape of Nanking was still worse (if we have to try and categorize human atrocity). Yet, the Japanese are a perfectly functional people today.

The war machine propaganda drumming up is truly amazing.

Glory Days;1706739 wrote:

Yeah and while I am thinking about it. I suppose you probably think we should start putting American Muslims in internment camps because after all, Islam is an inherently evil ideology and the people who follow it are evil.

steubbigred;1706276 wrote:this is what daesh wants not me ... maybe you ought to go read green eggs and ham and live under the blanket of freedom that our people provide for you..

I'm a proud veteran of the U.S. Navy and no amount of young sailors and marines fighting nut jobs in the middle of a sand box has anything to do with blankets of freedom here in American. Indeed, there is nothing that "Daesh" wants more than to trump up the west into fighting a battle for "Freedom" against "Islam." The fact that people are so willing to let so many of our young people risk losing their freedom permanently and forever because of unnecessary deaths all with false appeals to "freedom" after so many of these recent calamitous adventures is truly horrifying.

BoatShoes;1706771 wrote:It was not just Nationalism. It was White Nationalism

If that was the case one must wonder why the Germans attacked so many white nations.

BoatShoes;1706771 wrote:And your analogy with Russia is not a good one. The world community is offering Russia a way out and would ease the pain on its people in an instant. The world gave them German's no such deal and they just took more and more such as the French occupying the Ruhr.

In other words, we are trying to help the Russians. The world was not trying to help the Germans and those conditions persisted for years and years and years.

Its a perfect parallel. The Germans were given many ways out. Re-militarization of the Rhineland, the Sudetenland, the annexation of Austria. It was only when they went to far and attacked a nation with a military alliance with Great Britain that drew the final line. Russia is pushing towards that line.

This type of blindness is why history is doomed to repeat itself.

BoatShoes;1706780 wrote:Yeah and while I am thinking about it. I suppose you probably think we should start putting American Muslims in internment camps because after all, Islam is an inherently evil ideology and the people who follow it are evil.

you missed the point. plus, when have I said islam is evil?

BoatShoes;1706773 wrote:ISIS is sick and depraved and beyond comprehension with how deranged and evil they are...but the Nazi's were right with them.

No, they do it in the name of Allah and want nothing more than the Christian v. Muslim nonsense. Funny, you too think this is Armageddon and that is exactly what they want. They get people to join by offering them meaning in their life because they will be fighting the Christians in Damascus when Jesus returns.

How ridiculous is it, in 2015, we still have people murdering one another over disagreements about how, when and why a legend from history is going to reappear?

Also, why do Christians not have a duty to protect all of the Africans who have been slaughtered? What about the millions who have been murdered in North Korea (Oh yeah Nuclear Weapons undermine our good Christian Duty. What was I thinking).

north korea is contained ,but we do have a duty to try and get people out of the concentration camps. we should help all peoples all over the planet that are being attacked by the army of satan.. sorry i left some out .. right now daesh takes precedence because they are on the move ..

LOL...and North Korea is spreading across the far east and murdering people in other nations, too.

Absolutely incredible to listen to BoatShoes justify Nazi Germany.,...SMH. Yeah, it was the oppressive Brits and French. Oh, and those monsters in Czech and Poland, too.

BoatShoes;1706770 wrote:No it isn't. And, that is not the only thing Rush got wrong in that book.

Why is nobody talking about the holocausts that have occurred in Africa that are just as evil and horrific as what is going on in Iraq.

Call 1-800-ABC/NBC/CBS and ask them. Doesn't fit the narrative from the admin.

BoatShoes;1706775 wrote:Oh wait, nothing even close to the horror of the Marine Bombing has happened while Nero was golfing. But I suppose it might make you feel better if he was landing on aircraft carriers in jumpsuits.

Oh, what you mean is that people in far away lands are doing horrible things to one another and by golly if only Obama might act a little tougher and not be so weak the bad people would stop doing awful things! Like these bad people would never do something like fly planes into buildings on American soil if we had a real ma in the White House who clears brush instead of golfs!

How many 911's? how many Beruit bombings? I'd suggest that there is a difference between isolated attacks and an almost daily sytematic series of attacks. How long do we wait to respond? Would two or three attacks on the hoimeland be enough to grab our attention?

Oh, if only the civilized nations of the world would stop oppressing them like they did Nazi Germany in the 30's, none of this stuff would ever happen and everybody would play nice!

nazi germany had a fighting force that was very tough and very brave .... these demented fucks from daesh are a peasant army that would be routed by any western army who wishes to take them head on ... these fucks are a mob of criminals who are fighting for satan and we must exterminate them for what they are ... filthy pigs.. they are real tough when it comes to torture and enslaving and raping women and shooting babies and cutting off the heads of captive non combatants ... they are good at lighting a caged man on fire ... all the evil people are flocking to daesh from across the world ...... the kurds who have very little heavy armor or money are whipping these criminals asses because they are united and not corrupt .. we need to send that army all the help we can .

PREACH BROTHER!

BoatShoes;1706780 wrote:Yeah and while I am thinking about it. I suppose you probably think we should start putting American Muslims in internment camps because after all, Islam is an inherently evil ideology and the people who follow it are evil.

maybe we can give this pig a sex change right along with bradley cooper....that filthy cocksucker gets to pray to his satan everyday get 3 hots a cot ... fuck him imagine if he were a christian and he were held by daesh... they would push him off a 10 story building like they do gays.

Automatik;1706884 wrote:PREACH BROTHER!

i despise these cocksuckers . damn it i want to see these pigs destroyed

steubbigred;1706887 wrote:maybe we can give this pig a sex change right along with bradley cooper....that filthy cocksucker gets to pray to his satan everyday get 3 hots a cot ... fuck him imagine if he were a christian and he were held by daesh... they would push him off a 10 story building like they do gays.

First he stars playing Chris Kyle, and then he gets a sex change?!?!?!?


I bet chelsea Manning is happy it caught on....