superman;1696324 wrote:I'm assuming just more ESPN stupidity.

It was actually Florio at PFT(NBC). He's a dumbass most of the time though.

SportsAndLady;1696071 wrote:You think jones should transfer to an FCS school after winning a national championship.

You truly are a god damn moron.

I think he should start...but he won't. He'll be 3rd string again. And so...he needs to transfer. With that kind of ability. do you think he should rot away on the bench? You must have been a 3rd stringer yourself.

Crazy how Michael Thomas seemed to completely change from more of a possession guy to a guy who has some great open field moves.

Footwedge;1696328 wrote:I think he should start...but he won't. He'll be 3rd string again. And so...he needs to transfer. With that kind of ability. do you think he should rot away on the bench? You must have been a 3rd stringer yourself.

I don't think the issue was with the concept of Jones transferring if he won't start, but with the idea that he'd go to a lower level of play if he did. Going from OSU to YSU would be like transferring from Cleveland St. Ignatius to a random middle-of-nowhere Division VI high school, which doesn't make sense for any player who'd be interested in marketing himself for a future pro career.

se-alum;1696334 wrote:Crazy how Michael Thomas seemed to completely change from more of a possession guy to a guy who has some great open field moves.

I've been on the Michael Thomas bandwagon ever since he got to Ohio State. Don't know why I've been such a big fan, just think he's got some arrogance to him and wants to be on the biggest stage and has the talent to shine. He was great this year so hopefully can step his game up some more next year.

Heretic;1696352 wrote:I don't think the issue was with the concept of Jones transferring if he won't start, but with the idea that he'd go to a lower level of play if he did. Going from OSU to YSU would be like transferring from Cleveland St. Ignatius to a random middle-of-nowhere Division VI high school, which doesn't make sense for any player who'd be interested in marketing himself for a future pro career.

Thanks. REALLY shocked fw couldn't put that together...

Heretic;1696352 wrote:I don't think the issue was with the concept of Jones transferring if he won't start, but with the idea that he'd go to a lower level of play if he did. Going from OSU to YSU would be like transferring from Cleveland St. Ignatius to a random middle-of-nowhere Division VI high school, which doesn't make sense for any player who'd be interested in marketing himself for a future pro career.

I don't know about that Flacco was at a 1AA school. Plus now that his name is out there the scouts will seek out his film.

Flacco was the QB of the Blue Hens!

Jones won't get lost anywhere with that pocket presence and his arm strength.

Con_Alma;1696388 wrote:Flacco was the QB of the Blue Hens!

Jones won't get lost anywhere with that pocket presence and his arm strength.

Exactly

Helllll yyyyeeeeaaaaaa

Heretic;1696352 wrote:I don't think the issue was with the concept of Jones transferring if he won't start, but with the idea that he'd go to a lower level of play if he did. Going from OSU to YSU would be like transferring from Cleveland St. Ignatius to a random middle-of-nowhere Division VI high school, which doesn't make sense for any player who'd be interested in marketing himself for a future pro career.

Jones has not finished his degree like Braxton, so if he transfers he will have to sit out a year. Then he would have one year left to hopefully start. I don't believe he would have to sit if he transferred to a lower level like Footwedge suggested. Now, whether Footwedge factored that in when he said go to a lower level is debatable.

Jones should probably go pro if he can get drafted in the top 4-5 rounds. Alot of his knucklehead tendencies are being covered up by this great run. I'm not sure letting the pro's dissect him over the next few years is such a great idea.

Con_Alma;1696388 wrote:Flacco was the QB of the Blue Hens!

Jones won't get lost anywhere with that pocket presence and his arm strength.

Yep. He left pitt to go to delaware. Remember watching them in the playoffs taht year and they were saying he was a NFL type prospect.

Zoltan;1696522 wrote:Jones has not finished his degree like Braxton, so if he transfers he will have to sit out a year. Then he would have one year left to hopefully start. I don't believe he would have to sit if he transferred to a lower level like Footwedge suggested. Now, whether Footwedge factored that in when he said go to a lower level is debatable.

Jones should probably go pro if he can get drafted in the top 4-5 rounds. Alot of his knucklehead tendencies are being covered up by this great run. I'm not sure letting the pro's dissect him over the next few years is such a great idea.

The min salary is like 420k+ if you make the team so if he leaves that is the min he will make. He wont be put onto a practice squad because then any team can pick you up. Practice squad guys make like 105-110.

Now that means the team would have to carry 3 QB's on the 53 man. Some, like the ravens, only carry two and their 3rd guy (local Ohioan outta coldwater Ohio and ball state university) is on the practice squad.

oberhaus;1696386 wrote:I don't know about that Flacco was at a 1AA school. Plus now that his name is out there the scouts will seek out his film.

I agree with the second part. With the first, there are a few differences, IMO. Flacco transferred from a mediocre Pitt program where he was stuck on the bench and didn't really impress people until combines and stuff. Jones is a guy coming off three consecutive wins against high-power programs where he impressed a lot of people.

To me, transferring to a lower level, even if it's the one way he can get around the transfer rule (not familiar with all the ins and outs, so going off what was said here), is one of those "a lot to lose, a little to gain" moves. His old problems with conditioning and attitude (We don't play school!) could resurface due to complacency and being in a situation where he's the best guy out there could lead to those "I can get away with this shit here" bad habits.

I'd say he has two legit options right now. Go pro and see what happens because it's hard to have much better of a current stock than he gave himself. Stay at OSU and work for the degree and see what happens as far as the QB position and, if he graduates after this year, look to potentially transfer to a program where there will be more competition, if he's not starting.

I think everyone whose seen him would at least be interested in his athletic talent, poise and potential. I don't think being in a situation that seems tailor-made to put him at risk of falling into the same bad habits that led to all the stories about how he was the most out-of-shape incoming recruit ever would be that beneficial.

Zoltan;1696522 wrote:Jones has not finished his degree like Braxton, so if he transfers he will have to sit out a year. Then he would have one year left to hopefully start. I don't believe he would have to sit if he transferred to a lower level like Footwedge suggested. Now, whether Footwedge factored that in when he said go to a lower level is debatable.

Jones should probably go pro if he can get drafted in the top 4-5 rounds. Alot of his knucklehead tendencies are being covered up by this great run. I'm not sure letting the pro's dissect him over the next few years is such a great idea.

What are these knucklehead tendencies? They surely didn't show up in the 3 biggest games of the year.

Have very good knowlege from a very credible source that before all this went down with Cardale, he was planning to transfer to Findlay University for next season. It's pretty amazing how things change that fast.

vdubb96;1696667 wrote:Have very good knowlege from a very credible source that before all this went down with Cardale, he was planning to transfer to Findlay University for next season. It's pretty amazing how things change that fast.

This occurs frequently at the D2 level due to not having to sit out a year.

The WHINING about Ohio State "running up the score" on Oregon has reached ABSURDITY-level. People realize with over a minute left in the game and Oregon having 2 timeouts, the differential score was 15 points, right? Ohio State was playing Oregon, yes - the same Oregon that had 9 TD drives of 36 seconds or less - for the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Are people really crying about the Buckeyes scoring their last touchdown?!?! Jesus.

Link? I haven't seen a thing.

My response? Fuck 'em.

Automatik;1697118 wrote:Link? I haven't seen a thing.

My response? Fuck 'em.

Neither have I, but since his location is in the heart of Pac12 country, he might be hearing a lot out there that the national media doesn't give a fuck about, especially considering minor details like how most upper-tier teams in CFB tend to kick the shit out of any opponent they can.

Running up the score is what you do to the Kent State's of the world. IMO, there's no such thing as running up the score in a NCG. If you're able to show your dominance in that setting, you deserve to do so.

lol @ running up the score. Oregon is a bunch of cry babies; sorry your sorry speed and overrated QB got rekt.

Oregon was throwing deep up 30 late on FSU, F them.

The run up the score talk starting as soon as the last TD was scored. Anyone claiming it's running up the score can STFU. I would have called Urban weak if he didn't try score there.

Oregon's 247 site had a topic on it. But half the posters were saying the defense should have stopped them, not cry about getting scored on.

Especially Oregon where they've run up a lot of scores.