Big_Mirg_ZHS
Posts: 2,079
Dec 15, 2014 8:36pm
In the last 61 qbs drafted andy is the fourth best.
1. Luck
2. Russell Wilson
3. Cam Newton
4 Andy Dalton.
1. Luck
2. Russell Wilson
3. Cam Newton
4 Andy Dalton.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 15, 2014 9:18pm
I'll take tannehill foles and kaepernick over daltonBig_Mirg_ZHS;1686576 wrote:In the last 61 qbs drafted andy is the fourth best.
1. Luck
2. Russell Wilson
3. Cam Newton
4 Andy Dalton.
Also, that's not really saying much..there's been shitty QBs in the last 4 drafts
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 15, 2014 11:28pm
Yeah, being the guy one spot behind Cam Newton isn't exactly screaming upper class, considering the way that dude seems to regress a bit each year.SportsAndLady;1686589 wrote:I'll take tannehill foles and kaepernick over dalton
Also, that's not really saying much..there's been shitty QBs in the last 4 drafts
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 16, 2014 8:45am
after Sunday's performance I'm pretty fkg sure who is 61st!Big_Mirg_ZHS;1686576 wrote:In the last 61 qbs drafted andy is the fourth best.
Big_Mirg_ZHS
Posts: 2,079
Dec 16, 2014 9:12am
All these people knocking dalton drive me insane. Like fucking McCarron would be better. Andy is not as bad as people make him out to be. In his first 48 starts he has way better stats than Peyton Manning did in that time.Heretic;1686629 wrote:Yeah, being the guy one spot behind Cam Newton isn't exactly screaming upper class, considering the way that dude seems to regress a bit each year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 16, 2014 9:24am
I don't think anyone is saying that McCarron would be any better. What we're saying is that "Dalton sucks." For as bad as the Browns have been at QB since 1999, I can legitimately say I wouldn't want him on my team.Big_Mirg_ZHS;1686680 wrote:All these people knocking dalton drive me insane. Like fucking McCarron would be better. Andy is not as bad as people make him out to be. In his first 48 starts he has way better stats than Peyton Manning did in that time.
I understand that you want to defend your QB but sometimes, it's best to come to the realization that he's just not good. Heed this advice from someone who was on the Brandon Weeden Train for MUCH too long. It's best to just let it go. You can't shine a turd. Dalton is a mediocre QB.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Dec 16, 2014 9:26am
Manning didn't have A.J. Green.Big_Mirg_ZHS;1686680 wrote:All these people knocking dalton drive me insane. Like fucking McCarron would be better. Andy is not as bad as people make him out to be. In his first 48 starts he has way better stats than Peyton Manning did in that time.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 16, 2014 9:27am
And if Dalton doesn't have Green, he's Mark Sanchez.GoChiefs;1686684 wrote:Manning didn't have A.J. Green.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 16, 2014 9:30am
Wow that is a horrible argument with mccarron lol
"Dalton doesn't suck, were a better team with him then one of the worst QBs in the league, aj mccarron!"
"Dalton doesn't suck, were a better team with him then one of the worst QBs in the league, aj mccarron!"
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Dec 16, 2014 9:56am
He did have Marvin Harrison though, I think he was pretty good.GoChiefs;1686684 wrote:Manning didn't have A.J. Green.
And that's not a defense of Dalton, everybody knows I'm ready for the Bengals to move on from him, but Harrison was one of the best WRs in the league for years.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 16, 2014 9:58am
Manning did have some pretty good threats in Harrison & Wayne.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 16, 2014 10:06am
Don't know if AJ is one of the worst yet....But we sure do know WHO IS THE WORST...don't we Cleveburgh?SportsAndLady;1686687 wrote:Wow that is a horrible argument with mccarron lol
"Dalton doesn't suck, were a better team with him then one of the worst QBs in the league, aj mccarron!"
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 16, 2014 6:58pm
48 hrs later still walking on air...I'm not sure I was this fkg happy when 2 or 3 of my 9 kids were born.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 16, 2014 8:11pm
Yeah, that wasn't a good argument.Terry_Tate;1686695 wrote:He did have Marvin Harrison though, I think he was pretty good.
And that's not a defense of Dalton, everybody knows I'm ready for the Bengals to move on from him, but Harrison was one of the best WRs in the league for years.
The real truth is that QB stats today are way better across the board than they were from 1998-2000.
In 1998 there were 2 QBs with 4000 passing yards (leader at 4212) and 11 over 3000 yards.
Last season there 9 over 4000 (leader at 5477) and 21 over 3000, including Geno Smith, to demonstrate how empty of a stat it is today.
It's a different game.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Dec 16, 2014 8:30pm
Yup. Colt McCoy was well on his way to 3k yards with the Browns, before he was injured for the last 3 weeks. I was looking at Harbaugh's stats the other day and his pro bowl year (1995) he had 2575 yards and 17 tds. I wish a lot of the rules from that time never changed.Mulva;1686822 wrote:Yeah, that wasn't a good argument.
The real truth is that QB stats today are way better across the board than they were from 1998-2000.
In 1998 there were 2 QBs with 4000 passing yards (leader at 4212) and 11 over 3000 yards.
Last season there 9 over 4000 (leader at 5477) and 21 over 3000, including Geno Smith, to demonstrate how empty of a stat it is today.
It's a different game.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 16, 2014 8:42pm
All I'm hearing is a lot of QB stat rhetoric being used as a deflection to keep the focus away from just how pathetic the Clowns looked on Sunday and how sweet 90% of the SUCK came from a dickless little spoiled rich kid from E Buttfuck TX who's daddy bought him a position at a college that until 5 yrs ago was only known for its number of tumbleweeds.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Dec 16, 2014 10:15pm
Manziel's a sideshow and won't amount to anything as an NFL QB, but he's all we got, so we have to hope for the best..ain't that right, bank teller 
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Dec 16, 2014 10:22pm
I knew you were a JFF hatervball10set;1686845 wrote:Manziel's a sideshow and won't amount to anything as an NFL QB, but he's all we got, so we have to hope for the best..ain't that right, bank teller
LOL @ you trying to say you weren't.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 17, 2014 1:38am
I find it sickening that both Manzier's and Rapeis Winston's names are on the Heisman trophy along with guys like Archie & Eddie. It's definitely tarnished. Fuck even Tebow is much less of a tool than those two human turds. But neither one will be around much longer...both their 15 minutes are about up.
DB_Tiernan
Posts: 28
Dec 17, 2014 9:44am
I find it sickening that my dad has to embarrass himself on a message board in order to feel big and strong. Just stop making an idiot out of yourself dad...I'm tired of getting calls from the nursing home.
So embarrassed to call you my dad...
So embarrassed to call you my dad...
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 17, 2014 12:09pm
WOW...somebody went to a lot of effort to make a butt-hurt ass of themselves...but saludes to you for trying to be funny like_that...unfortunately you came up short agin.DB_Tiernan;1686931 wrote:I find it sickening that my dad has to embarrass himself on a message board in order to feel big and strong. Just stop making an idiot out of yourself dad...I'm tired of getting calls from the nursing home.
So embarrassed to call you my dad...
DB_Tiernan
Posts: 28
Dec 17, 2014 12:12pm
Dad, unfortunately mom told me what area you really come up short in. Will never get THAT image out of my head...
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Dec 17, 2014 12:19pm
Ahhhh the obligatory "short dick" joke...usually the last gasp of the creatively challenged. What's next an "I fucked your (Mom, sister, GF...insert one here)" joke?
Listen Pal you're way outta your league dealing with the Master here, now run along home junior.
Listen Pal you're way outta your league dealing with the Master here, now run along home junior.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Dec 17, 2014 12:22pm
Tiernan;1687029 wrote: now run along home junior.
Soooo.....you're confirming it's your kid?
DB_Tiernan
Posts: 28
Dec 17, 2014 12:24pm
The only thing you're the master of is being a deadbeat dad. Let mom and I know when we can pick up the thousands of dollars in back child support you owe.