I'm not going to spend time looking up home articles about legacy players. Congrats on learning how to use google!
And their defense is known as the legion of boom; which is referencing the D-line. LOLBR1986FB;1725592 wrote:Nice response but it still doesn't change the fact that the Sea Chickens are one of the elite teams in the league and that's their model.
They also built their team thru the draft, NOT by trading away their assets.BR1986FB;1725592 wrote:Nice response but it still doesn't change the fact that the Sea Chickens are one of the elite teams in the league and that's their model.
Tom Brady.like_that;1725590 wrote:Yeah, just ignore the fact they had Vince willfork for 10 years lol fail.
Legacy players? I thought Belichick got rid of Wilfork before winning this Super Bowl. I mean that is what you so eloquently stated and used it in your argument.sleeper;1725593 wrote:I'm not going to spend time looking up home articles about legacy players. Congrats on learning how to use google!
He's gone now. Your point?lhslep134;1725597 wrote:Legacy players? I thought Belichick got rid of Wilfork before winning this Super Bowl. I mean that is what you so eloquently stated and used it in your argument.
Two seasons ago they were favorites to win the SB until they lost willfork. Sleeper I like most of your posts, but you are just out of touch with reality when it comes to the NFL. After reading your posts the last few years about the NFL/Browns, it has become pretty obvious you don't follow the league as much as you do with college fball.sleeper;1725596 wrote:Tom Brady.
Agreed. Back to the cliches!like_that;1725600 wrote:Two seasons ago they were favorites to win the SB until they lost willfork. Sleeper I like most of your posts, but you are just out of touch with reality when it comes to the NFL. After reading your posts the last few years about the NFL/Browns, it has become pretty obvious you don't follow the league as much as you do with college fball.
My point is your conclusion about Bill Belichick is flawed because you used a clearly erroneous fact to support your conclusion. Yet you continue to assert your conclusion is correct. That makes you delusional.sleeper;1725598 wrote:He's gone now. Your point?
FIND me that QB in this draft that doesn't require trading the picks an I'm ALL in. Too bad he's not there. They're either going to have to bite the bullet/roll the dice & trade up or use a pick on a QB with a track record via trade. You guys may like to watch "run the ball/play mediocre defense with a shitty QB and lose by 3 every week" football but I'm sick of it.like_that;1725595 wrote:They also built their team thru the draft, NOT by trading away their assets.
Nobody knows who that QB is, that's typically why they go late.BR1986FB;1725606 wrote:FIND me that QB in this draft that doesn't require trading the picks an I'm ALL in. Too bad he's not there. They're either going to have to bite the bullet/roll the dice & trade up or use a pick on a QB with a track record via trade. You guys may like to watch "run the ball/play mediocre defense with a shitty QB and lose by 3 every week" football but I'm sick of it.
He doesn't watch CFB either aside from OSU.like_that;1725600 wrote:Two seasons ago they were favorites to win the SB until they lost willfork. Sleeper I like most of your posts, but you are just out of touch with reality when it comes to the NFL. After reading your posts the last few years about the NFL/Browns, it has become pretty obvious you don't follow the league as much as you do with college fball.
Help them what? Stop the run and lose by 7-10 instead of 3? I'd rather take a chance on what would be the best QB they've had, by FAR, since they returned in 99.like_that;1725609 wrote:Nobody knows who that QB is, that's typically why they go late.
Also you're gonna get the same shit if you trade away a first for a highly overrated Bradford. Lose by 3 every week football, plus miss out on drafting a guy that actually would help the team.
Let's keep this discussion about the Browns and their need to stop the run to win multiple Super Bowls.Rotinaj;1725611 wrote:He doesn't watch CFB either aside from OSU.
Or the NBA aside from maybe some Cavs gamesRotinaj;1725611 wrote:He doesn't watch CFB either aside from OSU.
Lol you are basing that off a guy who wasn't played a game in over 557 games? He is a mediocre QB. He is worth a 6th at best.BR1986FB;1725612 wrote:Help them what? Stop the run and lose by 7-10 instead of 3? I'd rather take a chance on what would be the best QB they've had, by FAR, since they returned in 99.
Based on what? Seahawks/Patriots were both top 10 in run defense last season.HighRoller74;1725627 wrote:I'll chime in on this debate.
Stopping the run is becoming increasingly less important to fielding a winning football team, but it doesn't mean its still not important.
The fact that it's a passing league now. Doesn't mean you have to abandon stopping the run, it's still important, but it's not any more important that any other aspect of your defense. If you can stop the run, but can't rush the QB, or have a poor pass defense, you're still going to get lit up. And vice versa, if you've got amazing DE's and DB's, but can't stop the run, they will run it down your throat.Commander of Awesome;1725632 wrote:Based on what? Seahawks/Patriots were both top 10 in run defense last season.
Fucking this!hangonsloopy;1725643 wrote:I'm not a huge fan of trading up for Mariota but I'm tired of people saying they would "give up the farm" for him. Trading your second 1st this year(which you acquired for exactly this reason) and a first next year is not giving up the farm. Is it a lot? Sure. If they think he's gonna be great though it's a small price to pay.
In fact all top 5 run D teams made the postseason. I understand that the league has became a primarily passing one, but you need a solid ground game to balance that out and be successfulCommander of Awesome;1725632 wrote:Based on what? Seahawks/Patriots were both top 10 in run defense last season.
