lhslep134;1711813 wrote:COA went on full spin cycle lol

Commander of Awesome;1711852 wrote:Don't make me out to be idiot pick6 or something. Actually he disappears when he puts his foot in his mouth.

Look, didn't think Browns had anything of value to trade to the Rams, and didn't think anyone was dumb/crazy enough to trade a starting QB for Bradford. Turns out I underestimated Chip Kelly's gusto, but not the Browns inability to land him. Fact remains, the browns wanted to trade for Bradford, but like I stated had nothing to trade the Rams to get it done. If a first round pick (like what was thrown around here) would have gotten it done, he'd be a brown. He's not, and we didn't land him from the Rams. Only thing that lands what is believed to be a franchise QB (not by me, Bradford sucks, huge contract, can't stay healthy) is another "franchise" QB (Foles) or draft picks to secure a "franchise" QB. Browns had neither, hence no deal.

So if Kelly/Browns goes full on retard, and trade bradford for 2 1sts so they can use 3 1st+ to get Mariotta than so be it, guess I'll be "wrong". You fuckers happy now?

se-alum;1711699 wrote:All of these regarding Bradford and not Browns specific. Sometimes we just have to admit we're wrong and move on.

lhslep134;1711857 wrote:Now you're just in denial. Just give it up man, we're all wrong about something on here.

BR1986FB;1711870 wrote:My concern is that Farmer is too stubborn to back off of the JFF "experiment" and that they will move forward with McCown. Another call I'd make if I was Farmer would be to New Orleans to see what it would take to get Drew Brees. Brees has got to be pissed that they are in rebuild mode and that they just traded his only weapon. If Manziel will be Farmer's guy, he can learn from Brees for a couple of years. Again, a pipe dream but I bet Brees is available for trade.

bases_loaded;1711895 wrote:Brees couldn't beat the Cleveland Browns WITH Jimmy Graham...not sure I want him QBing my team playing half his games in shitty weather without Jimmy Graham....the price to get him wouldn't be worth it either. I agree with us ending up with Bradford though. I trust in Farmer ...aside from that snitch Shannahan ratting him out over some texts hes done a pretty good job. I still believe Gilbert was Pettine's pick and JFF was Haslem's, the rest were Farmer.

bases_loaded;1711895 wrote:Brees couldn't beat the Cleveland Browns WITH Jimmy Graham...not sure I want him QBing my team playing half his games in shitty weather without Jimmy Graham....the price to get him wouldn't be worth it either. I agree with us ending up with Bradford though. I trust in Farmer ...aside from that snitch Shannahan ratting him out over some texts hes done a pretty good job. I still believe Gilbert was Pettine's pick and JFF was Haslem's, the rest were Farmer.

Crimson streak;1711909 wrote:Gotta believe we will end up with Bradford especially if the reports are true we were trying to get him yesterday. Many think chip kelly is crazy but he is a pretty smart guy. He wants Mariota. We want Bradford. And we have the picks and Manziel to get him Mariota. I fully believe Bradford will be our starting qb this year


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Dr. KnOiTaLL;1711912 wrote:If we trade two firsts for a veteran, injury-prone, QB who has never won in the league, then we're dumber than I initially thought.

BR1986FB;1711917 wrote:I tend to also think that Bradford may end up as the Browns starting QB but Farmer would be the dumbest GM on the planet to trade the two 1st's for him. I know the Browns need a legit QB badly but Bradford has too many "warts" to go all in on him.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1711912 wrote:If we trade two firsts for a veteran, injury-prone, QB who has never won in the league, then we're dumber than I initially thought.

bases_loaded;1711930 wrote:I'd give them 19 for him.

bases_loaded;1711930 wrote:I'd give them 19 for him.

BR1986FB;1711935 wrote:This is what I'd expect their asking price to be. They may ask for 12 instead but Farmer would be very dumb to do that. #19 is probably overpaying.

BR1986FB;1711904 wrote:Let's see.....Brees has no defense behind him, a "so so" running game and virtually NO targets to throw to now that Graham is gone. With the Browns, he'd have a better defense, better O-Line, a running game that could take the pressure off him and, assuming Farmer uses one of those #1's on a let WR, some targets to throw to.

Brees probably only has 2 solid years left. Am I saying they "would" reach out to New Orleans? No, but it would be worth a call to see if he was available. I'd leave no stone unturned if I was Farmer. Going into 2015 with McCown as the QB and "hoping" Manziel gets himself right is pointing toward a long, ugly season.

BR1986FB;1711935 wrote:This is what I'd expect their asking price to be. They may ask for 12 instead but Farmer would be very dumb to do that. #19 is probably overpaying.

bases_loaded;1711943 wrote:I agree its worth the call. I just don't want to send two 1sts to get a guy for 2 years.

sleeper;1711931 wrote:Yeah WTF? Why do we want Bradford? He sucks AND he's way overpaid. I'd rather just throw next season away with JFF and McCown than even touch the trash that is Bradford.

bases_loaded;1711945 wrote:12 would be nuts. 19 is the highest I go, only because I think behind a line like ours, Bradford stays upright and healthy and when hes healthy hes pretty damn good.