Classyposter58;1705247 wrote:Kiper had him going 11th I believe and shut the fuck up Automatik. If you watched the Rose Bowl and really believe the best QB was the one with the gold helmet you're nuts
Actually in Kipers final Mock Draft he had Cam going #1 overall. But you are correct on his big board he had Cam at #15 overall 1 spot behind Gabbert. Here is what is said about Newton in his final mock in 2011 "Is he the top player on my Big Board? No. But it's hard to blame a franchise in Carolina's position for falling in love with the extremely high ceiling of Newton. As I said when I projected him here before, there are immediate needs, and there is a decision that you believe will change the direction of your franchise for years to come. While I'm not certain Carolina isn't still listening for the right offer for this pick -- if you've heard me at all lately, you'll know I see this is one of the more unpredictable top 10's I can ever remember -- if the Panthers really see Newton as a transformative player who can be both a Pro Bowl quarterback and face of the franchise who draws a lot of buzz, they make this pick. If talent alone was all they were concerned with, Newton would be an easy choice. But this pick also requires a belief in his development and maturity. Will the Panthers have the patience to let him develop on the bench?"
But most scouts had Cam as the best QB of the bunch in 2011 and pretty much everyone knew he was going #1.
I'm not going to get on bashing you for your opinion by thinking Mariota is better but pretty much no one thinks that he will be better than Winston in the NFL on the field. All of Winston's questions are about his off the field stuff and maturity similar to Newton.
Also Sportchampps you didn't watch FSU much. Kelvin was great obviously but Rashad Greene bailed Winston out way more than he did in 2013. Winston this year seemed like he tried to do to much because he knew his defense wasn't as good as last year.