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Aug 6, 2015 9:31 AM
SportsAndLady;1744563 wrote:I want to see how Mccown looks in some preseason action before I'm officially calling for manziel. But I do hope JFF can turn it around so I'm hoping its him.
Yeah I'm only saying Johnny b/c if it's him he's probably really improved himself and is better than Mccown. It's more of a hope than anything.
Aug 6, 2015 9:31am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:33 AM
ZWICK 4 PREZ;1744564 wrote:Yeah I'm only saying Johnny b/c if it's him he's probably really improved himself and is better than Mccown. It's more of a hope than anything.
Manziel, either way. We know what McCown is. He's not winning you a ring, or likely getting you to the playoffs. JFF is an unknown. He could turn out to be a stud or he could look like total crap. Either way it's a "win win" for securing your future QB.
Aug 6, 2015 9:33am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:34 AM
BR1986FB;1744557 wrote:Mingo DOES suck. Top 10 pick who is going to get beat out by an undrafted player at the position but it's "ok" as long as he's a "contributor." We don't need no stinkin' impact players with our top 10 picks, just contributors!
Our most productive pass rusher on a per-snap basis last year "sucks?"

You're so delusional BR. Just shut the fuck up. You're IQQY re-incarnated. Feel free to go cry on IQQY's tear-filled thread. Your delusional crying is unwanted on this thread.
Aug 6, 2015 9:34am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:38 AM
lhslep134;1744566 wrote:Our most productive pass rusher on a per-snap basis last year "sucks?"

You're so delusional BR. Just shut the fuck up. You're IQQY re-incarnated. Feel free to go cry on IQQY's tear-filled thread. Your delusion is unwanted on this thread.

Waaaaah....fuck you and you stupid "metrics." Mingo doesn't pass the eye test. He's an oft-injured, light in the pants DE convert who was a huge reach by the previous GM. One person's opinion differs from the sheep and they're "delusional." Got it.
Aug 6, 2015 9:38am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:48 AM
BR1986FB;1744567 wrote:One person's opinion differs from the sheep and they're "delusional."
Another delusional misclassification of what you did. Your opinion is a complete divergence from facts (the numbers posted), not from our "opinion". I didn't post PFF's subjective grades, I posted a statistical measure: quarterback hurries per snap.

But please, continue to believe that your opinion, which has been proven wrong by support from facts, isn't delusional.

:RpS_lol:
Aug 6, 2015 9:48am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:51 AM
For BR's reference:

Here is a list of appropriate ways to describe Mingo:

-injured-riddled
-disappointing
-hasn't lived up to his draft slot*

Here is a list of inappropriate ways to describe Mingo:

-He sucks
-He's a huge bust*



*NOT the same
Aug 6, 2015 9:51am
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Aug 6, 2015 9:58 AM
Per our DC:

Though O'Neil conceded that Mingo is, "by far our best outside linebacker in coverage"

That has value in today's pass happy NFL. He by no means "sucks".

Now lets move the fuck on. I'm tired of reading stubborn posters rehash the same shit. Facts are facts, still don't like the guy? Fine, DGAF.

One unit in TC I haven't heard much about is TE. Any word on how Rob Housler is looking in camp?
Aug 6, 2015 9:58am
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Aug 6, 2015 10:01 AM
I'm happy with Mingo but can't fully disagree with BR. For where he was picked he is a little underwhelming.
Aug 6, 2015 10:01am
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Aug 6, 2015 10:04 AM
Commander of Awesome;1744571 wrote: One unit in TC I haven't heard much about is TE. Any word on how Rob Housler is looking in camp?
TE is about the only position we haven't really heard about.
Aug 6, 2015 10:04am
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Aug 6, 2015 10:32 AM
SportsAndLady;1744503 wrote:Honestly wasn't trying to give you shit. The second you realized weeden was hot garbage, you gave up on him. BR was too stubborn to admit he sucks until he was basically gone.

Oh ok. Yeah I was big on him until he was a hot mess. I'm not perfect :)
Aug 6, 2015 10:32am
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Aug 6, 2015 11:06 AM
shook_17;1744589 wrote:Oh ok. Yeah I was big on him until he was a hot mess. I'm not perfect :)
It's cool, none of us are.
Aug 6, 2015 11:06am
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Aug 6, 2015 11:21 AM
Playoffs lock it in
Aug 6, 2015 11:21am
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Aug 6, 2015 11:35 AM
Mingo tore his meniscus. Out 2-4 weeks.
Aug 6, 2015 11:35am
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Aug 6, 2015 11:55 AM
Commander of Awesome;1744571 wrote:Though O'Neil conceded that Mingo is, "by far our best outside linebacker in coverage"

That has value in today's pass happy NFL. He by no means "sucks"..

One unit in TC I haven't heard much about is TE. Any word on how Rob Housler is looking in camp?
It has value, but not worth a top 10 pick. Mingo did look better at the end of last year, but he is a huge disappointment from where he was drafted, and to be a "rushing specialist".

People on twitter have been talking about Bibb at TE. Haven't really heard much of Housler, or the other two.
Aug 6, 2015 11:55am
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Aug 6, 2015 12:22 PM
Sounds like Desir & Bitonio both got a little dinged up at this mornings practice. Manziel will be running with the 1's tomorrow night at the Horseshoe. Don't think McCown will participate.

EDIT: more detailed info on Thursday's injuries. Bitonio wasn't mentioned in there but Baskin & Phelps from 92.3 were at training camp and said they were scheduled to interview him but he went into the locker room for "treatment." Likely something minor.

http://cle.247sports.com/Bolt/Thursday-injury-report-from-Browns-training-camp-38592420
Aug 6, 2015 12:22pm
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Aug 6, 2015 2:38 PM
Mccown has shown flashes of greatness and I think he could be a top-10 QB if he get things going
Aug 6, 2015 2:38pm
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Aug 6, 2015 2:42 PM
MontyBrunswick;1744653 wrote:Mccown has shown flashes of greatness and I think he could be a top-10 QB if he get things going
Dwayne Bowe, is that you?
Aug 6, 2015 2:42pm
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Aug 6, 2015 3:00 PM
BR1986FB;1744658 wrote:Dwayne Bowe, is that you?
Mccown is good. Mark my words. He'll lead them to a playoff berth this year
Aug 6, 2015 3:00pm
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Aug 6, 2015 3:54 PM
MontyBrunswick;1744666 wrote:Mccown is good.
No, he's not. He might be good in your opinion, but there is no factual or film evidence that he is capable of sustaining a full season of good football.
Aug 6, 2015 3:54pm
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Aug 6, 2015 4:37 PM
MontyBrunswick;1744653 wrote:Mccown has shown flashes of greatness and I think he could be a top-10 QB if he get things going
I think we found thavoice.
Aug 6, 2015 4:37pm
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Aug 6, 2015 5:37 PM
like_that;1744707 wrote:I think we found thavoice.
Reps. Between this and the "replaceable thinkers" thread, it's definitely thavoice
Aug 6, 2015 5:37pm
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Aug 6, 2015 5:44 PM
Beg to differ with that article. I think Manziel plays a lot this year. Either injury or McCown sucking ass.
Aug 6, 2015 5:44pm
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Aug 6, 2015 5:47 PM
LOL yes! That is a great call like that. How did I not guess that?
Aug 6, 2015 5:47pm