Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 15, 2015 11:35am
I wanted Jackson to begin with, but it would be ridiculous to fire Blatt.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 15, 2015 11:40am
I dont think it would be stupid to fire him now. Why not if you can get the coach you want? NBA guys can adapt better to a new coach than lets say the NFL in season.Mulva;1696550 wrote:I wanted Jackson to begin with, but it would be ridiculous to fire Blatt.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 15, 2015 11:57am
Because the NBA regular season is only slightly more than meaningless. Particularly without a healthy Lebron or Andy, and 3 new pieces (one of them also injured) thrown into the mix in the midst of it all.
They were 17-10 before Varejao got hurt, and 18-12 before Lebron got hurt. Wait till Shumpert gets back and let the new pieces gel.
They were 17-10 before Varejao got hurt, and 18-12 before Lebron got hurt. Wait till Shumpert gets back and let the new pieces gel.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 15, 2015 11:59am
Blatt needs to go immediately. Just shows culture's win championships and Cleveland is not a championship culture
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jan 15, 2015 12:01pm
Nor is your grey matterClassyposter58;1696567 wrote:...culture's win championships and Cleveland is not a championship culture
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 15, 2015 12:01pm
Well, I'm convinced. Keep blatt. If classy thinks we should get rid of him, he should def stay.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 15, 2015 12:01pm
True, and I would agree with you if it werent for all this shit that is going down now.Mulva;1696566 wrote:Because the NBA regular season is only slightly more than meaningless. Particularly without a healthy Lebron or Andy, and 3 new pieces (one of them also injured) thrown into the mix in the midst of it all.
They were 17-10 before Varejao got hurt, and 18-12 before Lebron got hurt. Wait till Shumpert gets back and let the new pieces gel.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 15, 2015 2:35pm
They fire Blatt and they'll be paying Blatt, Mr potato head, and a new coach at the same time, and a lot of money too.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2015 3:23pm
Pales in comparison to the money Danny will lose if Love and LBJ aren't here next year.Midstate01;1696698 wrote:They fire Blatt and they'll be paying Blatt, Mr potato head, and a new coach at the same time, and a lot of money too.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 15, 2015 6:02pm
The 2012 LA Lakers said the same thing and look how that worked out. Nash & Howard were supposed to come in dominate, instead it just never got rolling, they finished 45-37 and the whole ship fell apart. I'll admit this is worse case but if Love bolts then you have a year left with Lebron to hopefully save the franchise from going back to the cellarMulva;1696566 wrote:Because the NBA regular season is only slightly more than meaningless. Particularly without a healthy Lebron or Andy, and 3 new pieces (one of them also injured) thrown into the mix in the midst of it all.
They were 17-10 before Varejao got hurt, and 18-12 before Lebron got hurt. Wait till Shumpert gets back and let the new pieces gel.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 6:11pm
If Love bolts, it will the best thing to happen for the Cavs.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 15, 2015 6:16pm
Not when you consider what we gave up for him.Laley23;1696794 wrote:If Love bolts, it will the best thing to happen for the Cavs.
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Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 15, 2015 6:47pm
Nate Robinson....Not sure how I'd feel about him AND JR on the 2nd unit. But would give us a better option than Delly, thats for sure.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 8:26pm
Well, yeah, that was a horrible trade, and I wont back down from that opinion lol.bases_loaded;1696796 wrote:Not when you consider what we gave up for him.
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But, if he Bolts, they will replace him with someone better, imo.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 15, 2015 8:56pm
Maybe not skill wise, but fit wise, I totally agree with you.Laley23;1696823 wrote:Well, yeah, that was a horrible trade, and I wont back down from that opinion lol.
But, if he Bolts, they will replace him with someone better, imo.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 9:03pm
Yeah, thats what I meant. They dont, and never did, need a scoring PF who isnt physical. Thats why I was so against the trade. Coupled with how great I think Wiggins will be, and I thought it was an asinine trade to make...but thats beside the point.HighRoller74;1696832 wrote:Maybe not skill wise, but fit wise, I totally agree with you.
They can get a C/PF (and I mean BOTH) who will fit the team much better for what Love costs.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 15, 2015 9:20pm
Kevin Love isn't physical? He may not be athletic but he is certainly physical.Laley23;1696834 wrote:Yeah, thats what I meant. They dont, and never did, need a scoring PF who isnt physical. Thats why I was so against the trade. Coupled with how great I think Wiggins will be, and I thought it was an asinine trade to make...but thats beside the point.
They can get a C/PF (and I mean BOTH) who will fit the team much better for what Love costs.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 15, 2015 9:21pm
Not agreeing or disagreeing because I haven't gave it much thought, but Bosh wasn't exactly a physical nonscoring PF and it worked out alright.Laley23;1696834 wrote:Yeah, thats what I meant. They dont, and never did, need a scoring PF who isnt physical. Thats why I was so against the trade. Coupled with how great I think Wiggins will be, and I thought it was an asinine trade to make...but thats beside the point.
They can get a C/PF (and I mean BOTH) who will fit the team much better for what Love costs.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 9:22pm
David West is a physical PF. Kevin Love is a PF who would rather shoot 3s than back you down. Rarely is he gonna get it on the block, and use power to get a good shot.robj55;1696837 wrote:Kevin Love isn't physical? He may not be athletic but he is certainly physical.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 9:25pm
Different teams though...Wade, LeBron, Haslam. Those guys were good defenders and really knew how to play a physical brand of basketball. they didnt need Bosh to be that. The Cavs do from Love, cause Andy, Kyrie, and pretty much everyone is soft outside of LeBron. Wade significantly decreased in skill over the years, but people discredit how tough that guys was and how fucking good he was when LeBron went there.Pick6;1696838 wrote:Not agreeing or disagreeing because I haven't gave it much thought, but Bosh wasn't exactly a physical nonscoring PF and it worked out alright.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 15, 2015 10:07pm
He's one of the worst athletes in the league and averages more than 12 boards a game for his career, you don't do that by not being physical. I agree that the Cavs should post him up more, Lebron too.Laley23;1696839 wrote:David West is a physical PF. Kevin Love is a PF who would rather shoot 3s than back you down. Rarely is he gonna get it on the block, and use power to get a good shot.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 10:19pm
He is one of the best at boxing out and gets great position. He doenst get rebounds from physicality.robj55;1696848 wrote:He's one of the worst athletes in the league and averages more than 12 boards a game for his career, you don't do that by not being physical. I agree that the Cavs should post him up more, Lebron too.
And LOLOLOLOLOL at him being a bad athlete. You must be confusing bad athlete with being white.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Jan 15, 2015 10:20pm
Here is Kevin Loves measurable being comparable and in some cases better than Blake Griffin...he is better in every category than Aldridge. BUUUUUT, he is white...
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/10/22/kevin-love-and-the-myth-of-natural-ability/
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/10/22/kevin-love-and-the-myth-of-natural-ability/
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 15, 2015 10:22pm
It's all relative, he's one of the worst athletes in the NBA easily, he can't finish around the rim and plays below it. Anyone who watches him can see it. Rebounding the way he does means that he is physical, boxing out and working for great position requires high level of physicality.Laley23;1696855 wrote:He is one of the best at boxing out and gets great position. He doenst get rebounds from physicality.
And LOLOLOLOLOL at him being a bad athlete. You must be confusing bad athlete with being white.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jan 15, 2015 10:24pm
Those mean nothing, it's about the product on the court. Do Love and Blake Griffin display the same level of athleticism on the court? Not even close.Laley23;1696856 wrote:Here is Kevin Loves measurable being comparable and in some cases better than Blake Griffin...he is better in every category than Aldridge. BUUUUUT, he is white...
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/10/22/kevin-love-and-the-myth-of-natural-ability/