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Sonofanump
Jun 14, 2015 10:48pm
No.Classyposter58;1734643 wrote:The refs have been bad both ways folks
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robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 10:49pm
Supporting cast is so bad, Warriors have other players who can make impact plays, Cavs don't, pretty simple.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jun 14, 2015 10:53pm
Harrison Barnes blows, but he out-hustled us on multiple occasions.robj55;1734661 wrote:Supporting cast is so bad, Warriors have other players who can make impact plays, Cavs don't, pretty simple.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jun 14, 2015 10:54pm
And his D doesn't even matter when Curry is hitting shots like that.HighRoller74;1734659 wrote:Delly may be the worst offensive player to ever play serious minutes in the finals. His defense is the only thing that makes him a respectable NBA player.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 14, 2015 10:54pm
I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
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Sonofanump
Jun 14, 2015 10:56pm
I don't seem to see the refs calling fouls much at all when he gets fouled.Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 10:58pm
Love is absolutely a huge loss, Tristan has no offense and clogs the paint, look how hard it is for Lebron to drive to the rim. There is no spacing out there even with the small lineup.Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 14, 2015 11:00pm
Wrong.Azubuike24;1734664[B wrote:]I think Love isn't a huge loss[/B], but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
They wouldn't be able to go small if Kevin Love was still available. Why everyone continues to discredit Love is beyond me.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 14, 2015 11:00pm
Love and Kyrie are huge losses. That said, cleveland would still be an underdog against this team. I'd just like our chances a lot more with them.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Jun 14, 2015 11:00pm
Love is one of our best floor spacers. To say he's not a huge loss is idiotic. He's only 16 and 10 every night with 1-2 threes. No big deal.Azubuike24;1734664 wrote:I think Love isn't a huge loss, but Kyrie gives the Cavs another incredible offensive "go offer" on the floor. It would make the scoring binges for Smith, Mozgov and others that much more effective. It's just evident that when the Warriors bring Barbosa, Iguodala, Livingston and even Lee, their options 5-8 are not awful offensively. They can all move the ball and get it to someone in a position to score.
The Cavs stayed in it tonight with more grit and toughness. Same in the first 3 games. Offensive boards, defensive stops, making free throws. LeBron is going to get his, but he's also going to miss 20+ shots every night and the refs can't call enough fouls because he's so physical driving every time.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 11:02pm
Because Thompson is a max player!! hahaHighRoller74;1734668 wrote:Wrong.
They wouldn't be able to go small if Kevin Love was still available. Why everyone continues to discredit Love is beyond me.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 14, 2015 11:02pm
Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA, MLB and Stanley Cup championship teams and Cleveland still has not produced any in the last 50 yearsDeyDurkie5;1734657 wrote:We should ask Detroit how they came back from a depression
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robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 11:03pm
Has nothing to do with the city, did they win with homegrown talent? This isn't college.Classyposter58;1734674 wrote:Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA Championship teams and Cleveland still has not
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DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Jun 14, 2015 11:04pm
Yeah it is. Crazy how a downtrodden city still is downtrodden after all these years of broke ass livingClassyposter58;1734674 wrote:Right? Crazy such an downtrodden city has still produced multiple NBA Championship teams and Cleveland still has not
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Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jun 14, 2015 11:05pm
At least those broke people have still been able to see championship parades downtownDeyDurkie5;1734676 wrote:Yeah it is. Crazy how a downtrodden city still is downtrodden after all these years of broke ass living
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 14, 2015 11:07pm
I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2015 11:08pm
It was a bad call.Footwedge;1734576 wrote:Cavs secure ball with 22.3 on the game clock and get an 8 second call with 16.0 left. Go figure.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 14, 2015 11:10pm
You're discrediting just how terrible the East is. If they played in the west, they don't make it to the semis without love.Azubuike24;1734679 wrote:I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2015 11:11pm
Agreed. Losing Kyrie is a bigger loss.Azubuike24;1734679 wrote:I'm not saying Love isn't a loss, but the Cavs played 2 series without him. They played well. Even very well in a few of those games. They could have won this series without him, especially against Golden State. That was my point. I'd rather have Kyrie in this series over Love (obviously you would want both...).
Not sure how the Cavs can win this series. The refs continuously swallowing their whistles is extremely frustrating.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 11:12pm
Yeah the west is so good that the 67 win warriors can barely beat the Cavs without Love, Kyrie and Varejao. GS should hand Cleveland the trophy, embarrassing to be struggling against THIS Cavs team.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1734681 wrote:You're discrediting just how terrible the East is. If they played in the west, they don't make it to the semis without love.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2015 11:14pm
THIS. Also, the NBA needs to have the refs learn how to call a moving screen. The Warriors are grabbing legs, jerseys, arms, legs, as well as moving and we get what, one moving screen call all game?Dr. KnOiTaLL;1734605 wrote:Its truly amazing how the NBA can justify that these are the best refs and that they're calling an unbiased game. Just because LeBron has good genes and has worked his tail off in the weight room shouldn't mean that he doesn't get the same calls as Draymond, Klay, and Iguodala. It's getting really freaking old.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 14, 2015 11:20pm
I can't believe that Draymond and Klay get the same call that Lebron doesn't, no respect.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 14, 2015 11:23pm
Blatt is going in on these reporters and their dumb questions.
ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Jun 14, 2015 11:25pm
Golden State had the fortune of playing against hurt teams all playoffs. The west is hands down better than the east. GS is +25 against Cleveland not with back to back double digit wins. Don't make it something it's not.robj55;1734683 wrote:Yeah the west is so good that the 67 win warriors can barely beat the Cavs without Love, Kyrie and Varejao. GS should hand Cleveland the trophy, embarrassing to be struggling against THIS Cavs team.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 14, 2015 11:26pm
LOL. Yeah these questions are terrible.HighRoller74;1734687 wrote:Blatt is going in on these reporters and their dumb questions.