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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 11, 2015 10:22am
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jun 11, 2015 10:42am
With Crawford as main official in 2015 playoffs home team has won 78% of games. 55% of fouls on road team.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 11:09am
Every game is a must win. Winning tonight obviously would be huge but losing tonight isn't the end of the world either.
With that said, Cavs in 6.
With that said, Cavs in 6.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 11, 2015 12:53pm
Warriors need to adjust....
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/11/8762679/warriors-hype-stephen-curry-draymond-green-nba-finals-2015
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/11/8762679/warriors-hype-stephen-curry-draymond-green-nba-finals-2015
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 1:00pm
They are already toast in my opinion. I'm glad David Lee had a decent Game 3 because maybe they will play him more and he straight up is a trash tier defender.BR1986FB;1733996 wrote:Warriors need to adjust....
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/11/8762679/warriors-hype-stephen-curry-draymond-green-nba-finals-2015
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:02pm
I think we will know early on in this game if GS actually has a shot. If they continue to act like pussies then it is over.
If they start getting their collective noses dirty then the cavs better look out.
If they start getting their collective noses dirty then the cavs better look out.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 11, 2015 1:05pm
If the Cavs can continue to control the pace of the game, they have a very good chance of winning. Blatt/Lue aren't getting nearly enough credit for the defensive game plan they've put together for GS.thavoice;1734000 wrote:I think we will know early on in this game if GS actually has a shot. If they continue to act like pussies then it is over.
If they start getting their collective noses dirty then the cavs better look out.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:08pm
NOTICE.
Friend may have an extra ticket for tonite. His buddy bailed last second. He hated to do it, but he asked me to go ha ha but I cant. Told him I would put it on here for all you cav fuck ups. Probably have to be from NEO by the time he knows for sure. $160 face value and probably just a bit more is what he would ask.
He has one last option that will know by 2 if he can go..if it still available I will let you mouth breathers know
Friend may have an extra ticket for tonite. His buddy bailed last second. He hated to do it, but he asked me to go ha ha but I cant. Told him I would put it on here for all you cav fuck ups. Probably have to be from NEO by the time he knows for sure. $160 face value and probably just a bit more is what he would ask.
He has one last option that will know by 2 if he can go..if it still available I will let you mouth breathers know
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Jun 11, 2015 1:08pm
Was asked by a guy I work work with...against GS, if they still had Love and Kyrie would this series be the same, better at 3-0 our worst than 2-1?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 1:09pm
I expect the games to continue to go how they have been going. Cavs will get out to an early lead in the early quarters and the Warriors will mount a comeback late. This is largely because we are running a very short bench and don't have the legs to take these games deep into the 4th. It's pretty clear that the Warriors don't have an answer to the defensive pressure when the Cavs have fresh legs. We are going to need another 40+ minute performance from Delly because I cannot stand watching Shumpert guard Curry.thavoice;1734000 wrote:I think we will know early on in this game if GS actually has a shot. If they continue to act like pussies then it is over.
If they start getting their collective noses dirty then the cavs better look out.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 1:09pm
Cavs in a sweep if we were at full strength.Benny The Jet;1734006 wrote:Was asked by a guy I work work with...against GS, if they still had Love and Kyrie would this series be the same, better at 3-0 our worst than 2-1?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jun 11, 2015 1:10pm
Such salesmanship.....:rolleyes:thavoice;1734005 wrote:NOTICE.
Friend may have an extra ticket for tonite. His buddy bailed last second. He hated to do it, but he asked me to go ha ha but I cant. Told him I would put it on here for all you cav fuck ups. Probably have to be from NEO by the time he knows for sure. $160 face value and probably just a bit more is what he would ask.
He has one last option that will know by 2 if he can go..if it still available I will let you mouth breathers know
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:13pm
Yeah, you would think that would be true but you just never know. Would they be as gritty and fiesty if Love and Kyrie were playing? Delabevigoda wouldnt be logging nearly as many minutes and he has been the catalyst in the aggressive nature in going after the loose balls. His energy has been contagious. It is sorta like in the stanley cup playoffs. Some average defenseman starts to drop to the ground to block slapshots with his body, and once he starts doing that then the stars start putting their bodies on the line as well.sleeper;1734008 wrote:Cavs in a sweep if we were at full strength.
I dont think it is as easy as saying since they are 2-1 now that if those two were playing that it would be 3-0 right now.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 1:18pm
You can tell our offense is suffering heavily and the legs are getting worn down much faster than necessary. The defense might be a little worse with Love and Irving but the offense would be much more efficient by having both of them. The Warriors defense is nothing special and it only looks decent because they don't have to worry as much about option #2 or #3.thavoice;1734010 wrote:Yeah, you would think that would be true but you just never know. Would they be as gritty and fiesty if Love and Kyrie were playing? Delabevigoda wouldnt be logging nearly as many minutes and he has been the catalyst in the aggressive nature in going after the loose balls. His energy has been contagious. It is sorta like in the stanley cup playoffs. Some average defenseman starts to drop to the ground to block slapshots with his body, and once he starts doing that then the stars start putting their bodies on the line as well.
I dont think it is as easy as saying since they are 2-1 now that if those two were playing that it would be 3-0 right now.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:22pm
Get what you are saying but in sports the dynamic changes at every instant. One would think it would be easy to say they would be up 3-0 and going for the sweep but shit changes and you never know. I have seen/participated in games where you beat a team when their best player was playing, but get beat by them when their best was hurt.sleeper;1734012 wrote:You can tell our offense is suffering heavily and the legs are getting worn down much faster than necessary. The defense might be a little worse with Love and Irving but the offense would be much more efficient by having both of them. The Warriors defense is nothing special and it only looks decent because they don't have to worry as much about option #2 or #3.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 11, 2015 1:26pm
Of course. The Cavs have something special going on here that doesn't reflect well on paper. Lebron said it best after Game 2, "I don't think there's any team in the league that would be where we are now having lost 2 all-stars".thavoice;1734019 wrote:Get what you are saying but in sports the dynamic changes at every instant. One would think it would be easy to say they would be up 3-0 and going for the sweep but shit changes and you never know. I have seen/participated in games where you beat a team when their best player was playing, but get beat by them when their best was hurt.
They are playing great team defense and great team ball in general. They are also playing hard every game and every possession. Would that still be the case with Irving and Love? Maybe, maybe not but I'd much rather have 2 all-stars on my team than the current lineup.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:33pm
Right now Delividoby is playing the Dennis Rodman role, and in a smaller instance, a Chris Jent role......and scoring. Gotta have players who are willing to do the dirty work and right now the cavs are out hustling and being much more hard nosed. The style they are playing now isnt sustainable over 82 games, but in a short series it can work.sleeper;1734022 wrote:Of course. The Cavs have something special going on here that doesn't reflect well on paper. Lebron said it best after Game 2, "I don't think there's any team in the league that would be where we are now having lost 2 all-stars".
They are playing great team defense and great team ball in general. They are also playing hard every game and every possession. Would that still be the case with Irving and Love? Maybe, maybe not but I'd much rather have 2 all-stars on my team than the current lineup.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Jun 11, 2015 1:35pm
that's a nice selective statistic that means absolutely nothing.Wooball;1733968 wrote:With Crawford as main official in 2015 playoffs home team has won 78% of games. 55% of fouls on road team.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Jun 11, 2015 1:40pm
thavoice;1734019 wrote:Get what you are saying but in sports the dynamic changes at every instant. One would think it would be easy to say they would be up 3-0 and going for the sweep but shit changes and you never know. I have seen/participated in games where you beat a team when their best player was playing, but get beat by them when their best was hurt.
True. And if Love and Irving were playing we would probably not be playing the Lebron-rope-a-dope style, which means it might be more of an up and down game and that plays to GS strengths. A lot of things would be different and it is not possible to predict what would be happening.
I'll take what we have now, and hope we can outlast the enemy.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jun 11, 2015 1:41pm
I guarantee thavoice spent more time coming up with dumb ways to misspell Dellavedova than it would take to actually learn how to spell it correctly. What a loser.
Wooball
Posts: 1,325
Jun 11, 2015 1:45pm
It very well could just be coincidence that he has officiated games where the home team was better, just thought it was interesting. How about LBJ's record with Joey on the court?derek bomar;1734027 wrote:that's a nice selective statistic that means absolutely nothing.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:45pm
I guarantee if you spent as much time trying to formulate a decent point about this series as you do ripping on me or arguing about grammar ya might actually contribute to the discussion.lhslep134;1734031 wrote:I guarantee thavoice spent more time coming up with dumb ways to misspell Dellavedova than it would take to actually learn how to spell it correctly. What a loser.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 11, 2015 1:48pm
Def more time than actual time spent watching the cavs. Comparing delly to rodman.... LOLlhslep134;1734031 wrote:I guarantee thavoice spent more time coming up with dumb ways to misspell Dellavedova than it would take to actually learn how to spell it correctly. What a loser.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 11, 2015 1:49pm
You aren't contributing shit. You can make a post as long as you won't, but it's pretty damn obvious you do not watch the games.thavoice;1734036 wrote:I guarantee if you spent as much time trying to formulate a decent point about this series as you do ripping on me or arguing about grammar ya might actually contribute to the discussion.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jun 11, 2015 1:50pm
What I meant by that is he is doing the dirty work.like_that;1734039 wrote:Def more time than actual time spent watching the cavs. Comparing delly to rodman.... LOL