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friendfromlowry
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Jun 6, 2015 7:27pm
Classyposter58;1732870 wrote:I'm not its just annoying to hear all you Cavs fans saying he would not have been stopped driving to the hoop when Iguodala had defended him very wel all night
He did?
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 6, 2015 7:30pm
Yes, Lebron was 4-14 against AI in game 1. On the last play of regulation, AI cut him off and made him take a tough shot, and Green was sitting in the paint waiting to come help either way. People like Skip Bayless say,"just put your head down and get fouled!" How many times does he drive and get fouled with a no call? All the time, it's not that easy. Sometimes you have to give the defense credit.friendfromlowry;1732873 wrote:He did?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jun 6, 2015 7:30pm
Didn't Lebron score 44 points? If that's defended well, what is not defended well, 85 points?Classyposter58;1732870 wrote:I'm not its just annoying to hear all you Cavs fans saying he would not have been stopped driving to the hoop when Iguodala had defended him very wel all night
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sportswizuhrd
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Jun 6, 2015 7:55pm
https://twitter.com/ChrisFedor/status/606693236355297280
#Cavs LeBron vs Iguodala: 11 points on 4-14, including 2-7 in 4th Q/OT. Against everyone else: 27 points on 12-22
#Cavs LeBron vs Iguodala: 11 points on 4-14, including 2-7 in 4th Q/OT. Against everyone else: 27 points on 12-22
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
Jun 6, 2015 8:03pm
I have no complaints with the last play. But I thought he did a good job of muscling AI around (which he could do to just about anyone) to get some good looks. AI also committed a few shooting fouls on him as well.robj55;1732877 wrote:Yes, Lebron was 4-14 against AI in game 1. On the last play of regulation, AI cut him off and made him take a tough shot, and Green was sitting in the paint waiting to come help either way. People like Skip Bayless say,"just put your head down and get fouled!" How many times does he drive and get fouled with a no call? All the time, it's not that easy. Sometimes you have to give the defense credit.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Jun 7, 2015 2:31am
Injuries sustained by Kyrie since his Duke days.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jun 7, 2015 3:00am
Lot of ppl have a lot of time on their hands.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 7, 2015 10:49am
Nobody is saying Lebron is unstoppable on every possession. There are 10 years of evidence of that. The issue was he took a low percentage shot (how many deep shots has he made in the playoffs? not many), when he could have taken his chances at the basket (with a wide open lane) and maybe draw a foul with the team in bonus. The shot just made no sense.Classyposter58;1732870 wrote:I'm not its just annoying to hear all you Cavs fans saying he would not have been stopped driving to the hoop when Iguodala had defended him very wel all night
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ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 7, 2015 12:12pm
This.like_that;1732910 wrote:Nobody is saying Lebron is unstoppable on every possession. There are 10 years of evidence of that. The issue was he took a low percentage shot (how many deep shots has he made in the playoffs? not mant), when he could have taken his chances at the basket (with a wide open lane) and maybe draw a foul with the team in bonus. The shot just made no sense.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 7, 2015 2:43pm
Except that the lane wasn't wide open, Iggy cut him off and help was waiting, the defense forced him into the shot they wanted him to take, and he missed it.
Classyposter58
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Jun 7, 2015 3:48pm
So not thisernest_t_bass;1732914 wrote:This.
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Lovejoy1984
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Jun 7, 2015 3:56pm
https://youtu.be/3jgq_U9nYAE?t=4m4srobj55;1732920 wrote:Except that the lane wasn't wide open, Iggy cut him off and help was waiting, the defense forced him into the shot they wanted him to take, and he missed it.
Starts at the 4m mark. He could've got around Iggy, or even cross over and go back to his right, Iggy over played him going to the left. And yes, his path to the basket was wide open, Green shows, but, he stays in the restricted area, and had LBJ drove he could've got a better look than the fadeway he took.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Jun 7, 2015 6:32pm
At no point did he have a step on AI, he cut him off and made him take a fall away jumper. Why do people think you can just get to wherever you want on the court when you want? There is a reason they play defense.HighRoller74;1732927 wrote:https://youtu.be/3jgq_U9nYAE?t=4m4s
Starts at the 4m mark. He could've got around Iggy, or even cross over and go back to his right, Iggy over played him going to the left. And yes, his path to the basket was wide open, Green shows, but, he stays in the restricted area, and had LBJ drove he could've got a better look than the fadeway he took.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 7, 2015 6:45pm
Everybody SHUT THE FUCK UP. Rob is here to let everyone know he played bball and nobody else has. This debate is over.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jun 7, 2015 6:50pm
LBJ initially has a stop on him see 4:06 mark in video I posted, Iggy, is playing him shaded to his right side, LBJ clearly has a step to take it to his left. It's been well known he doesn't like to drive with this left, and primarily shoots jumpers when he does.robj55;1732940 wrote:At no point did he have a step on AI, he cut him off and made him take a fall away jumper. Why do people think you can just get to wherever you want on the court when you want? There is a reason they play defense.
Was good defense by Iggy, cutting off LBJ to the right, but LBJ could've gotten by him to the left, but he routinely, will settle for jumpers when his right hand is cut off.
I'm not gonna argue the point further, as its game night, and time to focus on how we rebound.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 7, 2015 7:45pm
Go figure skate or somethingClassyposter58;1732925 wrote:So not this
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GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Jun 7, 2015 7:46pm
Go Cavs.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Jun 7, 2015 8:05pm
Lets. Fucking. Go. Cavs
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Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 7, 2015 8:10pm
Pretty good odds, Cleveland +265 tonight. Worth it? I mean, if they have any shot in the series, it's gotta be a W tonight, IMO.
SportsAndLady
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Jun 7, 2015 8:15pm
Klay is literally raping delly. Finally call the foul
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Jun 7, 2015 8:20pm
LOL at that charge call on Moz. I hope we get that home cooking in Cleveland.
SportsAndLady
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Jun 7, 2015 8:22pm
Van Gundy feels like he has to make an opinion on every foul call. Just STFU
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ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 7, 2015 8:27pm
Barbosa just leaning on Smith
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 7, 2015 8:27pm
Cavs can't hit shit
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jun 7, 2015 8:28pm
The Cavs offense is downright bad. LeBron is literally going to need to score 50 PPG or this is a sweep.