
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Apr 27, 2015 1:32pm
I agree we don't need delly trey's going up.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1724323 wrote:oh God if they start dellavedova i wont even watch.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2015 2:56pm
lol delly isnt going to be starting. quit being so dramatic.gport_tennis;1724320 wrote:Or kyrie, delvadova, shump, Bron, mozgov...yikes

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2015 3:22pm
WestbrookZWICK 4 PREZ;1724279 wrote:You're fucking nuts...
gtfooh lol. Only thing any of those guys have on Rose is reliability due to injury. As far as skills go, your list is laughable.
Curry
Irving
Wall
I. Thomas
Teague
Lilliard
R. Jackson
Conley
Bledsoe
Dragic
Paul
Are all definitely better than current D.Rose.
Parker
E. Payton
Lawson
Beverly
Kemba
Would be the next level, which is where I'd probably slot Rose.

Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 27, 2015 3:29pm
LOL Thomas isn't even a starter on his own team.

Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 27, 2015 3:34pm
Isaiah Thomas, Reggie Jackson, and Dragic are not better than Rose. Thomas doesn't even start.HighRoller74;1724344 wrote:Westbrook
Curry
Irving
Wall
I. Thomas
Teague
Lilliard
R. Jackson
Conley
Bledsoe (SG)
Dragic
Paul
Are all definitely better than current D.Rose.
Parker
E. Payton
Lawson
Beverly
Kemba
Would be the next level, which is where I'd probably slot Rose.
I would agree that Rose belongs in the same group as Kemba, but just above him. Dragic is probably just below Rose as well. Jackson and Thomas, however, should both be at the bottom of the listed players, IMO. Lawson is a turd with a bad attitude, so you can toss him below them if you want, but they are by no means anywhere near the player Rose is, even with his injury concerns. See game 3 for reference: http://www.nba.com/games/20150423/CHIMIL/gameinfo.html?ls=eref:google:1b
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Apr 27, 2015 3:43pm
Fixed it for youHighRoller74;1724344 wrote: Westbrook - better than rose
Curry - better than rose
Irving - better than rose
Wall - better than rose, rose has higher ceiling
I. Thomas - fuck no
Teague - fuck no
Lilliard - the rose on the court right now is better
R. Jackson - fuck no
Conley - debatable
Bledsoe - the rose on the court right now is better
Dragic - the rose on the court right now is better
Paul - better than rose
Are all definitely better than current D.Rose.
Parker - the rose on the court right now is better
E. Payton - LOL
Lawson - Lawson is higher up on the list than this but rose still better
Beverly - hard to compare, Harden is real the "point guard on that team"
Kemba - the rose on the court right now is better
Would be the next level, which is where I'd probably slot Rose.

ZWICK 4 PREZ
Posts: 7,733
Apr 27, 2015 5:53pm
Irving, Beverly, Westbrook, Wall, dragic, Lowry, curry, Paul, Conley, Parker, lillard are better than Rose at this point.
Irving, Westbrook, Curry, and Paul are as good as him when he's healthy.
Irving, Westbrook, Curry, and Paul are as good as him when he's healthy.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2015 6:06pm
Love is out for the EC Semis.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2015 6:14pm
Damn itHighRoller74;1724386 wrote:Love is out for the EC Semis.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2015 6:16pm
I don't think we beat the Bulls without love. Fucking sick of how unlucky Cleveland is.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2015 6:16pm
And from the sounds of it, that's just the best outcome. More likely to be out the entire playoffs.lhslep134;1724391 wrote:Damn it

SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 27, 2015 6:16pm
Fucking Olnyk or whatever the hell his name is spelled. What a fucking POS.
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lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 27, 2015 6:22pm
Agree on both counts.like_that;1724392 wrote:I don't think we beat the Bulls without love. Fucking sick of how unlucky Cleveland is.
The only way I see us beating Chicago is truly transcendental play from Lebron and our role players stepping the f up. Room for margin of error is zero.
UGH

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2015 6:29pm
Cavs in 6.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2015 6:30pm
Agree with Sleeper.
Cavs will win in 6.
Cavs will win in 6.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2015 6:31pm
I mean it's a big blow. Kevin Love is a top 25 player so it hurts. However, we still have Lebron James and Irving and its the fucking Bulls. The Bulls suck.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 27, 2015 6:36pm
If Lebron wants to truly be thought of as the best player then he needs to step up and win the series without Love.
Granted it wasnt a full series, but Magic stepped up and basically played center for Jabbar when he got hurt. James is much better player than Magic, but Johnson did whatever it took in that one to win it..including taking his game down low.
Granted it wasnt a full series, but Magic stepped up and basically played center for Jabbar when he got hurt. James is much better player than Magic, but Johnson did whatever it took in that one to win it..including taking his game down low.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 27, 2015 6:39pm
anthavoice;1724409 wrote:If Lebron wants to truly be thought of as the best player then he needs to step up and win the series without Love.
Granted it wasnt a full series, but Magic stepped up and basically played center for Jabbar when he got hurt. James is much better player than Magic, but Johnson did whatever it took in that one to win it..including taking his game down low.
Right because Lebron doesn't have a history of taking shitty teams to success in the playoffs. Even without Love, this team is SIGNIFICANTLY better than any of his previous teams in Cleveland.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 27, 2015 6:41pm
LOL at those that think the Bulls will win. Cavs will still be a 4 to 1 favorite over the lowly Bulls.
The problem is Atlanta. I doubt Love will be 100% for the ECF's.
The problem is Atlanta. I doubt Love will be 100% for the ECF's.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 27, 2015 6:43pm
LBJ will still be viewed as the best player even if the Bulls pull the huge upset.thavoice;1724409 wrote:If Lebron wants to truly be thought of as the best player then he needs to step up and win the series without Love.
Granted it wasnt a full series, but Magic stepped up and basically played center for Jabbar when he got hurt. James is much better player than Magic, but Johnson did whatever it took in that one to win it..including taking his game down low.

like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 27, 2015 6:53pm
As already stated, the only way we beat the Bulls is if Lebron takes it to another level and hopefully Kyrie emerges to the next level with the playoffs. Not many games this year where Lebron decided to single handedly win, so hopefully he was saving it up for now.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 27, 2015 7:04pm
2 games for JR. Only 1 for Olynyk.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 27, 2015 7:08pm
Fantastic that Olynyk gets to miss the first game of the season, while JR has to miss quality/important games. Seems fair.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Apr 27, 2015 7:09pm
JR deserves 2 games. That's 100% on him.
Not much else they could do to Olynyk, other than make the suspension longer.
Not much else they could do to Olynyk, other than make the suspension longer.

Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
Apr 27, 2015 7:13pm
Am I reading the Cleveland report wrong or does it say he tore his labrum? If that's the case I don't think he'll play again. I just had that surgery a year ago. Ugh the rehab for that shit.