slingshot4ever;1731262 wrote:Love brings no defense and eats away at TT minutes. We don't sweep Atlanta with a healthy Love. We dont need him stretching the floor with Imam and JR on the perimiter and he can't rebound, especially not like TT.

Laley23;1731261 wrote:I don't know. But Love wanted out, wasn't going to resign. Had basically said Cleveland or nothing. Cleveland had ALL the leverage. We have seen that story play out many times before and the trade goes through for "pennies".

I dont know know for sure, but my gut says that trade gets done a few weeks/months into season for picks/Bennett/???. Without Wiggins being a part of it. Seemed like Cleveland panicked when they had the upper hand.

slingshot4ever;1731262 wrote:Love brings no defense and eats away at TT minutes. We don't sweep Atlanta with a healthy Love. We dont need him stretching the floor with Imam and JR on the perimiter and he can't rebound, especially not like TT.

slingshot4ever;1731262 wrote:Love brings no defense and eats away at TT minutes. We don't sweep Atlanta with a healthy Love. We dont need him stretching the floor with Imam and JR on the perimiter and he can't rebound, especially not like TT.

slingshot4ever;1731263 wrote:this is a better team without Love. Sure, it took some time to get used to the change during Chicago series, but everyone is contributing. This isn't like 2007 where LeBron had to win the games on his own.

HighRoller74;1731265 wrote:Have you seen Bennett play basketball? Had he started the season with the Cavaliers, he'd have no trade value at all.

Also , 2 1st round picks, and Anthony Bennett is not landing Kevin Love, the only other trade piece was Dion. And Bennett couldn't get minutes with the Timberwolves....they won 16 games, and he could barely get on the court. He's a bust of epic proportions, and I hate to sound like Sleeper, but he's legit out of the league in 2 years. He has no real discernible Basketball talent.

And regardless if Love wanted out, and only wanted to come to Cleveland, They could've traded him to whatever team they wanted, and gotten more than the Pu Pu Platter we were offering.

Would you rather have 2 confirmed scrubs (DW.AB), and a couple late 1st round picks.....or, for example, Sullinger/Zeller and a late 1st. And if a team really wanted to try, they could up it. You don't think the Lakers would've offered up this years 1st, and Julius Randle/Fillers for Love.

Laley23;1731269 wrote:Fair point on Bennett. Disagree with everything else.

No one but Cleveland was going to get Love because he wouldn't commit to anyone but Cleveland.

You don't think the same things were said when Grant Hill, Vince Carter and Barkley were given away for nothing. Pay Gasol? Baron Davis??

There is a history of being able to get stars for cheap. I fully believe Cleveland couldn't had Love for much cheaper.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1731264 wrote:You just completely invalidated yourself

slingshot4ever;1731273 wrote:i should have clarified offensive rebounding. Hard to argue that Love is better on the offensive boards.

slingshot4ever;1731273 wrote:i should have clarified I don't watch basketball.

sportswizuhrd;1731279 wrote:Kyrie-JR-LeBron-Love and Mozgov are the Cavs best 5 man unit...

http://www.82games.com/1415/1415CLE2.HTM

Azubuike24;1731326 wrote:After acquiring Mozgov, Shumpert and Smith, Love became much less of a need. It has shown in the playoffs. It's hard to say though, at the time, the Cavs overpaid. I mean, they had no clue what they would do this year or that they could make the finals without Love. They also didn't realize what the combo of Thompson, Smith, Shumpert and Mozgov could give to off-set Love.

I think the real debate will be the make-up of the roster in 2 years, depending who you keep and what Thompson will cost. You gotta figure J.R. Smith will want a long-term deal with Cleveland after this year. If the Cavs decide on Mozgov, do they try to get someone to take Varejao?

Azubuike24;1731326 wrote:After acquiring Mozgov, Shumpert and Smith, Love became much less of a need. It has shown in the playoffs. It's hard to say though, at the time, the Cavs overpaid. I mean, they had no clue what they would do this year or that they could make the finals without Love. They also didn't realize what the combo of Thompson, Smith, Shumpert and Mozgov could give to off-set Love.

I think the real debate will be the make-up of the roster in 2 years, depending who you keep and what Thompson will cost. You gotta figure J.R. Smith will want a long-term deal with Cleveland after this year. If the Cavs decide on Mozgov, do they try to get someone to take Varejao?

Al Bundy;1731329 wrote:Why wouldn't you want varejao in the rotation. If he recovers, he should be a solid player off the bench as he gets older.

SportsAndLady;1731335 wrote:I want no part of varejao on this team. He can't be relied on to stay healthy.