shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Oct 20, 2014 12:20pm
Well with a disappointing loss in Jacksonville will Cleveland rebound? Will Hoyer have a better game or has he finally been figured out? Will the offensive line get it together? Slide Greco back to RT and move Mcdonald at center?
Maybe the wide outs will catch the ball and West can maybe learn to run north and south instead of east and west. (No pun intended)
Browns get back on track and win.
Raiders 13
Browns 24
Maybe the wide outs will catch the ball and West can maybe learn to run north and south instead of east and west. (No pun intended)
Browns get back on track and win.
Raiders 13
Browns 24
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Oct 20, 2014 12:34pm
I think the Raiders will score more than 13 but I think the Browns will win.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 20, 2014 12:47pm
I'm expecting a loss.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 20, 2014 12:48pm
Did the browns use the tecmo bowl bootleg play alot yesterday?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 20, 2014 12:49pm
Browns win by 30
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 20, 2014 1:54pm
I think this is where we find out what the team and coaching staff is made out of. I expect a win.....anybody can have a bad game.....but two losses against bottom feeders would be unacceptable.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 20, 2014 2:02pm
At Raiders and I'd pick them but in Cleveland coming off terrible showing you have to figure a big week of preparation and Cleveland wins by 6+
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Oct 20, 2014 2:17pm
The Browns will win this one by alot. It's at home, and the Raiders are terrible (even worse on the road).
A 3-2 team shouldn't have needed a good humbling like they got, but hopefully they can now stop reading their own press clippings and get back to playing good football.
A 3-2 team shouldn't have needed a good humbling like they got, but hopefully they can now stop reading their own press clippings and get back to playing good football.
iclfan2
Posts: 6,360
Oct 20, 2014 6:36pm
This. Is anyone ever NOT expecting a loss?Commander of Awesome;1665072 wrote:I'm expecting a loss.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 20, 2014 7:32pm
iQQy isn't.iclfan2;1665234 wrote:This. Is anyone ever NOT expecting a loss?
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Oct 20, 2014 7:44pm
I'm still pissed about the loss and feel like the rest of the year is ruined...........I can't justify losing to a winless team one third of the way through the season and expect to make the play-offs. For what? One and done? Just to say we made the play-offs? <---long shot now
Whatever.
Go Browns!
Whatever.
Go Browns!
BRF
Posts: 8,748
Oct 22, 2014 7:31pm
My apologies for slamming the thread shut.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 22, 2014 7:59pm
Any injury updates? Are we going to get any defensive linemen back this week?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 22, 2014 10:02pm
Rubin maybe.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 22, 2014 10:17pm
What really scares me with Hoyer is that when our play action isn't working and he has to throw under center and make reads, he tends to get a bit inaccurate and average. He really needs to secure that part of his game before he makes that next jump. Basically you take away our run and we've got nothing, as the jags showed.
Also, stop running west over Crowell. Crow earned his spot backing up Tate, west shouldn't just get it back.
Also, stop running west over Crowell. Crow earned his spot backing up Tate, west shouldn't just get it back.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 23, 2014 1:31am
Crowell is better than Tate and should be starting over him. Period. West should be 3rd string.DeyDurkie5;1665973 wrote:What really scares me with Hoyer is that when our play action isn't working and he has to throw under center and make reads, he tends to get a bit inaccurate and average. He really needs to secure that part of his game before he makes that next jump. Basically you take away our run and we've got nothing, as the jags showed.
Also, stop running west over Crowell. Crow earned his spot backing up Tate, west shouldn't just get it back.
HitsRus
Posts: 9,206
Oct 23, 2014 8:27am
Definitely a fan of the Crow here. He finds the seam and hits it fast. West could be a good running back but he needs to stop dancing and run north and south. You don't have time in the NFL to be choosy.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2014 8:33am
Browns are going to have a tough road ahead if they don't fix that center/right guard situation. Hoyer was exposed as a game manager that absolutely needs an effective running game so he can utilize that play action. Five acceptable/good games is greater than one stinker so he gets the benefit of the doubt going forward. If he shits down his leg again against a hapless Raiders team, Pettine needs to start thinking about making some changes.
I expect a win this Sunday but areas of concern are that Derek Carr doesn't take a lot of sacks, the Raiders aren't bad when they get in the red zone and their red zone defense isn't bad. Hopefully, the Browns rushing attack gets back on track this week as Oakland is horrendous against the run. Unfortuanely, so are the Browns.
I expect a win this Sunday but areas of concern are that Derek Carr doesn't take a lot of sacks, the Raiders aren't bad when they get in the red zone and their red zone defense isn't bad. Hopefully, the Browns rushing attack gets back on track this week as Oakland is horrendous against the run. Unfortuanely, so are the Browns.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 23, 2014 9:23am
Derek ^
All David Carr did was take sacks.
All David Carr did was take sacks.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2014 9:36am
My bad. You're right. Trying to do too many things at once.Mulva;1666020 wrote:Derek ^
All David Carr did was take sacks.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 24, 2014 7:40am
ThisHitsRus;1665095 wrote:I think this is where we find out what the team and coaching staff is made out of. I expect a win.....anybody can have a bad game.....but two losses against bottom feeders would be unacceptable.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Oct 24, 2014 9:57am
I think we shit the bed and lose and the manziel talks start to get louder and more real
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 24, 2014 10:00am
If this happens, we may see Manziel as soon as next week.DeyDurkie5;1666316 wrote:I think we shit the bed and lose and the manziel talks start to get louder and more real
What these Manziel nuthuggers seem to be forgetting in the equation is that it may not be about "how bad Hoyer is playing." It may be that the coaches see that "Johnny isn't picking up the offense fast enough and isn't ready." Maybe the coaching staff sees Hoyer as the lesser of two evils, at this point, and know Manziel's not ready?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 24, 2014 10:15am
Hoyer is alright. He's not Peyton he's gonna have a bad game. He'll bounce back vs Oakland
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 24, 2014 10:19am
Based on preseason and the few passes we've seen in the season, he's far from ready. Needs to improve arm strength for sure.BR1986FB;1666318 wrote:If this happens, we may see Manziel as soon as next week.
What these Manziel nuthuggers seem to be forgetting in the equation is that it may not be about "how bad Hoyer is playing." It may be that the coaches see that "Johnny isn't picking up the offense fast enough and isn't ready." Maybe the coaching staff sees Hoyer as the lesser of two evils, at this point, and know Manziel's not ready?
Hoyer seems to get pissed and play better after jff comes in though, wouldn't mind seeing that happen again. He hasn't played well past 3 games.