lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 12:42pm
Why are you getting butthurt because I pointed out you incorrectly dismissed someone's valid point? That's not semantics dude, that's part of debate.SportsAndLady;1676724 wrote:Oh Jesus Christ. Semantics dude.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 12:45pm
Lol Burke has been atrocious this yearSportsAndLady;1676726 wrote:And besides, plenty of, what appears to be, good picks after the 6th pick.
Trey Burke
SportsAndLady
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Nov 22, 2014 12:49pm
Because I just used the wrong terminology.lhslep134;1676731 wrote:Why are you getting butthurt because I pointed out you incorrectly dismissed someone's valid point? That's not semantics dude, that's part of debate.
Me: Noel is a bust
UK fan: yeah but every body else in this draft sucked so I donno if he's a bust
Me: that doesn't make any sense
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 22, 2014 12:51pm
He hasn't been good but he had a good rookie season, it appears he is hitting his sophomore slump.lhslep134;1676736 wrote:Lol Burke has been atrocious this year
As a prediction, I'll take him over Noel going forward.
I just don't like Noel..I don't think he has the offensive game to be worth a damn.
Azubuike24
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Nov 22, 2014 12:55pm
And I've asked now 3 times. If he's Tyson Chandler, along with the rest of his draft, is that a bust? If it is...it's your opinion. IMO, Noel doesn't have the greatest skill set and I'd be kidding myself if I truly thought his upside is anything MORE than Chandler.
Same with Ben McLemore. As the 7th pick, if he becomes J.R. Smith in this draft, is that a bust? I'd say that's a decent comparison and that wouldn't be a bust...
Same with Ben McLemore. As the 7th pick, if he becomes J.R. Smith in this draft, is that a bust? I'd say that's a decent comparison and that wouldn't be a bust...
SportsAndLady
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Nov 22, 2014 12:58pm
Of course he's not a bust if he's Tyson chandler what kind of dumb fuck question is that? The point I'm making is he won't be Tyson chandler IN MY OPINIONAzubuike24;1676750 wrote:And I've asked now 3 times. If he's Tyson Chandler, along with the rest of his draft, is that a bust? If it is...it's your opinion. IMO, Noel doesn't have the greatest skill set and I'd be kidding myself if I truly thought his upside is anything MORE than Chandler.
Same with Ben McLemore. As the 7th pick, if he becomes J.R. Smith in this draft, is that a bust? I'd say that's a decent comparison and that wouldn't be a bust...
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 12:58pm
Agreed. I'm not high on Noel either. But his defense is a strong utility and big men take longer to develop offensively than any other position. He's also only a rookie dude, the other people you're comparing him to have a huge advantage in having already played a year.SportsAndLady;1676742 wrote:
I just don't like Noel..I don't think he has the offensive game to be worth a damn.
SportsAndLady
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Nov 22, 2014 1:01pm
I don't disagree. I was just making a prediction based purely on opinion lol I didn't expect you guys (well okay I expected buike to defend his UK boys..) to jump down my throat.lhslep134;1676756 wrote:Agreed. I'm not high on Noel either. But his defense is a strong utility and big men take longer to develop offensively than any other position. He's also only a rookie dude, the other people you're comparing him to have a huge advantage in having already played a year.
lhslep134
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Nov 22, 2014 1:04pm
I used your own words against you. That's not jumping down your throat. You're too sensitive.SportsAndLady;1676762 wrote: to jump down my throat.
bigdaddy2003
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Nov 22, 2014 1:05pm
I don't see him being Tyson Chandler-ish either.
SportsAndLady
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Nov 22, 2014 1:09pm
But do you understand how annoying that is?lhslep134;1676763 wrote:I used your own words against you. That's not jumping down your throat. You're too sensitive.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 22, 2014 1:11pm
lol yes. I actually got into a discussion with a co worker before this season and he brought up Burke. I lol'd and said he's trash and the co worker got all butt hurt. Thanks for reminding me that I need to bring it up again.lhslep134;1676736 wrote:Lol Burke has been atrocious this year
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Nov 22, 2014 1:13pm
Chandler was DPOY and a key player on a championship team. If Noel becomes that, I think most ppl will say that's a fucking solid pick.Azubuike24;1676706 wrote:Define bust? He was a 6th pick, had a devastating injury to rehab from and is on an awful team. Will he ever be an all star? I don't think so. Could be become someone like Tyson Chandler? A 12 and 10 guy who will block shots, get a few assists and steals? Sure.
Also, comparing him to guys taken ahead of him, Cody Zeller, Otto Porter and Anthony Bennett and a vast majority of that draft, does he get that label still?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 1:19pm
What do you want me to say? If you don't contradict yourself, you won't have to worry about me using your words against you.SportsAndLady;1676772 wrote:But do you understand how annoying that is?
And yes, I get annoyed when people point out my mistakes. But the easy solution is to not make mistakes.
Pick6
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Nov 22, 2014 1:20pm
Hindsight is 20/20. I remember when S&L wanted the Cavs to take Otto Porter.
lhslep134
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Nov 22, 2014 1:24pm
I've got Hayward on my fantasy team so I like to watch their games. Sometimes I'm just like "wtf Burke, wtf"Commander of Awesome;1676775 wrote:lol yes. I actually got into a discussion with a co worker before this season and he brought up Burke. I lol'd and said he's trash and the co worker got all butt hurt. Thanks for reminding me that I need to bring it up again.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 1:26pm
BTW I hate this entire exercise. One or two (or three) seasons is way too early to make any definitive statements about any player. Especially big men.
(S&L this isn't an attack--you stated an opinion that sparked a discussion. That's good)
(S&L this isn't an attack--you stated an opinion that sparked a discussion. That's good)
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 22, 2014 1:30pm
LOL link?Pick6;1676783 wrote:Hindsight is 20/20. I remember when S&L wanted the Cavs to take Otto Porter.
Also lol @ you chiming in like anyone on this board cares about your meaningless "contributions"
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 22, 2014 1:31pm
I didn't contradict myself. I said he would be a bust. I probably would hVe been better off saying he isn't going to be very good in the NBA.lhslep134;1676782 wrote:What do you want me to say? If you don't contradict yourself, you won't have to worry about me using your words against you.
And yes, I get annoyed when people point out my mistakes. But the easy solution is to not make mistakes.
But even if he sucks and everyone else in the draft sucks doesn't make it inaccurate to call him a bust.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 1:43pm
I pointed out your mistake in post 298. I'm not re-explaining it again.SportsAndLady;1676794 wrote:
But even if he sucks and everyone else in the draft sucks doesn't make it inaccurate to call him a bust.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 1:45pm
Given the way you defined bust, ya you should have said that.SportsAndLady;1676794 wrote:I probably would hVe been better off saying he isn't going to be very good in the NBA.
SportsAndLady
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Nov 22, 2014 1:48pm
Okay.lhslep134;1676806 wrote:Given the way you defined bust, ya you should have said that.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Nov 22, 2014 1:52pm
I disagree. I can give someone 1 season to be ok or bad but not 2 or 3.lhslep134;1676790 wrote:BTW I hate this entire exercise. One or two (or three) seasons is way too early to make any definitive statements about any player. Especially big men.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 22, 2014 1:54pm
Depends on the position. Like I said, I give big men a lot more leeway.bigdaddy2003;1676810 wrote:I disagree. I can give someone 1 season to be ok or bad but not 2 or 3.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 22, 2014 2:01pm
Here you go.SportsAndLady;1676793 wrote:LOL link?
Also lol @ you chiming in like anyone on this board cares about your meaningless "contributions"
SportsAndLady;1398049 wrote:Just did a mock lottery draft on ESPN...had us at 7, taking Otto Porter...yesh
SportsAndLady;1395335 wrote:Saw a new mock that had Cavs picking 4th..grabbing Otto Porter from Georgetown...yes please
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2020590SportsAndLady;1422504 wrote:I really like Porter...I think people get too caught up in March Madness and forget that one month of basketball shouldn't be the only variable when judging a player's NBA ability.
Porter is going to be a really good pro...I doubt you'd say 'no thanks' to him 45 days ago.