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Dec 31, 2014 12:39 PM
friendfromlowry;1690811 wrote:Suh's suspension reduced to a $70,000 fine instead. Really went from one end of the spectrum to another.
Saw that a $70,000 fine for Suh is the equivalent of a $152 fine for someone making 50K/yr.
Dec 31, 2014 12:39pm
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Dec 31, 2014 12:40 PM
like_that;1690977 wrote:Pat Shurmur is going to ruin his career if he takes another HC gig this early. He needs about 4+ more years, before he even considers being a HC again. Why the fuck does the league look at him in high regard, but coaches like zimmer had to wait so long to get a HC gig?
Good question.
Over the years 700WLW sports "experts" speculated maybe he was a horrible interview...just not that commanding in a one on one setting, shit like that. Also speculated how strongly he sought jobs.
Did take him a long time to land one though and was glad to see he did fairly well this year considering the circumstances.
The league loves retreads. I am not even sure Rex Ryan should be a well sought after HC but reportedly is interviewing with a couple of teams. He made the AFC a couple of times with pretty much a stout defense but that was about it.
Dec 31, 2014 12:40pm
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Dec 31, 2014 12:50 PM
like_that;1690977 wrote:Pat Shurmur is going to ruin his career if he takes another HC gig this early. He needs about 4+ more years, before he even considers being a HC again. Why the fuck does the league look at him in high regard, but coaches like zimmer had to wait so long to get a HC gig?
I like pettine, but you and I were beating the zimmer drum all off season (and the yr before if I recall correctly). Nonsensical why it took so fucking long for him to get a job. He's doing a hell of a job in Minn.
Dec 31, 2014 12:50pm
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Dec 31, 2014 12:53 PM
I can see rex being a good college coach. His hoo rah rah shit would never wear off with the players since they graduate.
Dec 31, 2014 12:53pm
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Dec 31, 2014 12:59 PM
like_that;1690988 wrote:I can see rex being a good college coach. His hoo rah rah shit would never wear off with the players since they graduate.
True, but he would need some serious offensive coaches to be able to recruit in talent on that side of the ball. Wouldnt see many blue chip QB's/RB's or WR's lining up unless he had top notch offensive coaches..
and even if he did I would be a bit wary to sign knowing that if the OC was that good he easily could be gone soon for a HC spot elsewhere.
Dec 31, 2014 12:59pm
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Dec 31, 2014 1:33 PM
thavoice;1690993 wrote:True, but he would need some serious offensive coaches to be able to recruit in talent on that side of the ball. Wouldnt see many blue chip QB's/RB's or WR's lining up unless he had top notch offensive coaches..
and even if he did I would be a bit wary to sign knowing that if the OC was that good he easily could be gone soon for a HC spot elsewhere.
I think he could pull it off. Also, luckily in college, you can get away with having a shitty QB. Alabama has done it for years.
Dec 31, 2014 1:33pm
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Dec 31, 2014 1:38 PM
like_that;1691012 wrote:I think he could pull it off. Also, luckily in college, you can get away with having a shitty QB. Alabama has done it for years.
True.
I think the Saban name has a little more influence and pull than Rex Ryan though.
Dec 31, 2014 1:38pm
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Dec 31, 2014 1:39 PM
like_that;1691012 wrote:I think he could pull it off. Also, luckily in college, you can get away with having a shitty QB. Alabama has done it for years.
Not elite, but I wouldn't use the word "shitty" either. There have been some Heisman invites in there.
Dec 31, 2014 1:39pm
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Dec 31, 2014 6:31 PM
Doug Marrone opted out of his contract in Buffalo.
Dec 31, 2014 6:31pm
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Dec 31, 2014 6:59 PM
Don't blame him. No QB, and No 1st rd pick this year, plus new ownership, should be able to cash in after a respectable year this year as well.
Dec 31, 2014 6:59pm
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Dec 31, 2014 7:10 PM
se-alum;1691111 wrote:Doug Marrone opted out of his contract in Buffalo.

...and according to Colin Cowherd was a candidate for the Michigan job until Harbaugh took it.
Dec 31, 2014 7:10pm
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Jan 1, 2015 12:18 AM
Yet the rumor is he might be interested (and mutually) in going to the Jets? For sure, it's a big pay day...but the situation? Worse, IMO.
Jan 1, 2015 12:18am
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Jan 1, 2015 11:13 AM
Azubuike24;1691197 wrote:Yet the rumor is he might be interested (and mutually) in going to the Jets? For sure, it's a big pay day...but the situation? Worse, IMO.
Who cares if his next situation is worse? He made $4 million dollars, with no offset, by simply deciding to make himself a free agent coach. That's incredible.
Jan 1, 2015 11:13am
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Jan 2, 2015 1:34 PM
Unlikely Green plays too. Both teams should've just taken it easy last Sunday. Especially Cincy. I mean, it's just torture to see AJ not only fumble, ruining any chance for LAST WEEK, but takes a shot to the head and likely ruins and chance for THIS WEEK. I know Browns' fans understand. Literally a "what could go wrong did go wrong" example that seems to happen to Cincy.

Injuries have killed Cincy and part of it, has to be the medical staff (coincidence, the Browns' fans have similar concerns).
Jan 2, 2015 1:34pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:36 PM
thavoice;1692141 wrote:Pretty much expected him to be out. Will see if they can win without him.
I expect Pittsburgh to throw a ton in this one due to a) Baltimore's banged up secondary and b) they have no threat (sorry, Ben Tate got released by two teams in 5 weeks for a reason) to run the ball. I think this will hurt Pittsburgh a bit in that (and I hate to say this), Bell is a pretty special player (running & receiving threat).
Jan 2, 2015 1:36pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:38 PM
Azubuike24;1692143 wrote:Unlikely Green plays too. Both teams should've just taken it easy last Sunday. Especially Cincy. I mean, it's just torture to see AJ not only fumble, ruining any chance for LAST WEEK, but takes a shot to the head and likely ruins and chance for THIS WEEK. I know Browns' fans understand. Literally a "what could go wrong did go wrong" example that seems to happen to Cincy.

Injuries have killed Cincy and part of it, has to be the medical staff (coincidence, the Browns' fans have similar concerns).
Cincy had a lot of things go their way this season.
Jan 2, 2015 1:38pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:43 PM
Other than the Tampa game, which was the right result, what else was a break for them?

I'd argue they probably should've been 11-5 as Nugent hits that FG 95% of the time. Their 5 losses (Indianapolis, Cleveland, New England, Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh) the got blown out. The other wins they pretty much dominated the game.

Vontaze Burfict missing 13 games (on IR)
AJ Green missing 5 games
Tyler Eifert missing 15 games (on IR)
Rey Maualuga missing 3 games
Marvin Jones missing 16 games (on IR)
Gio Bernard missing 3 games
Andre Smith missing 7 games (on IR)

This is all magnified considering you have an average QB who you built your team around getting him a TON of weapons. To lose most of those weapons and still making the playoffs, not bad.
Jan 2, 2015 1:43pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:47 PM
Azubuike24;1692155 wrote:Other than the Tampa game, which was the right result, what else was a break for them?

I'd argue they probably should've been 11-5 as Nugent hits that FG 95% of the time. Their 5 losses (Indianapolis, Cleveland, New England, Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh) the got blown out. The other wins they pretty much dominated the game.

Vontaze Burfict missing 13 games (on IR)
AJ Green missing 5 games
Tyler Eifert missing 15 games (on IR)
Rey Maualuga missing 3 games
Marvin Jones missing 16 games (on IR)
Gio Bernard missing 3 games
Andre Smith missing 7 games (on IR)

This is all magnified considering you have an average QB who you built your team around getting him a TON of weapons. To lose most of those weapons and still making the playoffs, not bad.
As they say now in the nfl, your best ability is availability.
Injuries suck and derail teams all the time. Bengals overcame it enough to make the playoffs, AGAIN!.
Jan 2, 2015 1:47pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:49 PM
They dominated Baltimore twice (despite blowing 2 score leads in both), Tennessee, Jacksonville, Atlanta, New Orleans, Cleveland (the second time) and Houston. Many of those, while not close, weren't also as "impressive" as people thought they should be.
Jan 2, 2015 1:49pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:50 PM
BR1986FB;1692144 wrote:I expect Pittsburgh to throw a ton in this one due to a) Baltimore's banged up secondary and b) they have no threat (sorry, Ben Tate got released by two teams in 5 weeks for a reason) to run the ball. I think this will hurt Pittsburgh a bit in that (and I hate to say this), Bell is a pretty special player (running & receiving threat).
Am a bit interested in Harris running the ball. Dude looks pretty tough. Bell is just missed so man yways. After taking some criticism last year from Ben he truly has been with it 100% of the time. Bell just does it all from the numbers stand point and also picking up blitzes, and that uncanny knack of slipping out into the open after a block and everyone else is downfield.

Steelers should win this one as the Ravens slept walk the last two weeks of the season. Almost like they think they can just turn it on whenever they want. Messenged with someone on the ravens practice squad the other day and they expect it to be as intense as ever.

All points to the steelers winning, so that means the ratbirds will prevail right?
Jan 2, 2015 1:50pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:54 PM
thavoice;1692157 wrote:As they say now in the nfl, your best ability is availability.
Injuries suck and derail teams all the time. Bengals overcame it enough to make the playoffs, AGAIN!.
Yeah, that was my point. I'm not blaming injuries. The Bengals aren't the only ones. I just pointed out that with the design of this team (average QB who they have made up that gap by spending a LOT of picks on offensive talent), losing essentially 2 of your top 4 passing targets for the whole season, your star WR for almost half of it and your starting right tackle really tests you. To boot, your defensive captain who basically runs your entire defense, and at your weakest defensive level, adds to it.

On the other hand, take Pittsburgh. Offensively, they have been relatively healthy and Roethlisberger, Brown and Bell have been incredibly durable. That's why Bell now is such a big loss. Defensively, the Steelers have been racked with key injuries all year, more than most could overcome.
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Jan 2, 2015 1:55 PM
thavoice;1692159 wrote:Am a bit interested in Harris running the ball. Dude looks pretty tough. Bell is just missed so man yways. After taking some criticism last year from Ben he truly has been with it 100% of the time. Bell just does it all from the numbers stand point and also picking up blitzes, and that uncanny knack of slipping out into the open after a block and everyone else is downfield.

Steelers should win this one as the Ravens slept walk the last two weeks of the season. Almost like they think they can just turn it on whenever they want. Messenged with someone on the ravens practice squad the other day and they expect it to be as intense as ever.

All points to the steelers winning, so that means the ratbirds will prevail right?
I fully expect Pittsburgh, without Bell, to win this. The Ravens just suck. I don't know any other way to say it. They really don't deserve to be in the playoffs. They were fortunate that San Diego crapped in their hats. Baltimore doesn't impress me in any facet (except their punter & kicker) of the game.
Jan 2, 2015 1:55pm
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Jan 2, 2015 1:58 PM
Azubuike24;1692161 wrote:Yeah, that was my point. I'm not blaming injuries. The Bengals aren't the only ones. I just pointed out that with the design of this team (average QB who they have made up that gap by spending a LOT of picks on offensive talent), losing essentially 2 of your top 4 passing targets for the whole season, your star WR for almost half of it and your starting right tackle really tests you. To boot, your defensive captain who basically runs your entire defense, and at your weakest defensive level, adds to it.

On the other hand, take Pittsburgh. Offensively, they have been relatively healthy and Roethlisberger, Brown and Bell have been incredibly durable. That's why Bell now is such a big loss. Defensively, the Steelers have been racked with key injuries all year, more than most could overcome.
In the past the injuries were just overcome with good depth. This year the steelers defensive injuries were just overcome with the offense being that much better than they were in the past.
Jan 2, 2015 1:58pm