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queencitybuckeye

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Sep 30, 2014 10:26 AM
BR1986FB;1658891 wrote:Think the "can't leave your feet in a TD celebration" rule was implemented a couple of seasons ago. Pretty dumb.
NFL has said that religious expression is an exception and this shouldn't have been flagged.
Sep 30, 2014 10:26am
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Sep 30, 2014 12:06 PM
queencitybuckeye;1658960 wrote:NFL has said that religious expression is an exception and this shouldn't have been flagged.
But RG3 isn't allowed to wear a religious shirt at a press conference.
Sep 30, 2014 12:06pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:18 PM
wildcats20;1658996 wrote:But RG3 isn't allowed to wear a religious shirt at a press conference.
If it is made by Nike he could.
When they are in official capacity they have to wear certain things. No diff than when Kitna was wearing some religious hat.

I got back after midnight and had very little contact of what happened over the weekend.....what the fuck happened to the steelers? I know the buccs were embarrassed by the falcon and all but man..to lose that game is unacceptable and a season changer for the worst.
Sep 30, 2014 1:18pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:26 PM
thavoice;1659023 wrote:If it is made by Nike he could.
When they are in official capacity they have to wear certain things. No diff than when Kitna was wearing some religious hat.

I got back after midnight and had very little contact of what happened over the weekend.....what the fuck happened to the steelers? I know the buccs were embarrassed by the falcon and all but man..to lose that game is unacceptable and a season changer for the worst.
In short: Over the final few minutes of the game, they pulled off the world's best Cleveland Browns impersonation for finding hilariously bizarre ways to lose a game.

They led 24-20 (after not really doing anything in the second half after scoring on their first possession of it) and made a tough defensive stop to get the ball back deep in their territory with a bit under 2 minutes to play and TB having two TOs left.

On their drive, instead of running out the clock, they wound up going 3-and-out and having to punt it back. They would have gotten a first down on their second down play, if not for how they'd gotten a 5-yard penalty before that play, so the 8 yards on Ben's pass to Wheaton only made it 3rd and 5 instead of 1st and 10.

Punter has a shit punt (29 yards) to give the ball back to TB on the Pitt 46 with under a minute and no timeouts. So they immediately hit a 41-yard pass and scored shortly after.

For the cherry on top of the shit sundae, just watch their attempt to do a trick "do a bunch of laterals and hope something happens" play to end the game. Even by the usual standards of this play, theirs was sad.
Sep 30, 2014 1:26pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:28 PM
wildcats20;1658996 wrote:But RG3 isn't allowed to wear a religious shirt at a press conference.
I've never seen a ref throw a flag at a press conference. That's pure league office shit (aka: GODell looking to "protect the shield" by forcing players to only wear clothes from sponsors and fining people who don't comply with really important things like that).

A better comparison would be how Tebow was allowed to Tebow during his career.
Sep 30, 2014 1:28pm
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thavoice

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Sep 30, 2014 1:30 PM
Heretic;1659027 wrote:In short: Over the final few minutes of the game, they pulled off the world's best Cleveland Browns impersonation for finding hilariously bizarre ways to lose a game.

They led 24-20 (after not really doing anything in the second half after scoring on their first possession of it) and made a tough defensive stop to get the ball back deep in their territory with a bit under 2 minutes to play and TB having two TOs left.

On their drive, instead of running out the clock, they wound up going 3-and-out and having to punt it back. They would have gotten a first down on their second down play, if not for how they'd gotten a 5-yard penalty before that play, so the 8 yards on Ben's pass to Wheaton only made it 3rd and 5 instead of 1st and 10.

Punter has a shit punt (29 yards) to give the ball back to TB on the Pitt 46 with under a minute and no timeouts. So they immediately hit a 41-yard pass and scored shortly after.

For the cherry on top of the shit sundae, just watch their attempt to do a trick "do a bunch of laterals and hope something happens" play to end the game. Even by the usual standards of this play, theirs was sad.
Sounds very browns-ish.
Sep 30, 2014 1:30pm
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thavoice

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Sep 30, 2014 1:32 PM
Heretic;1659028 wrote:I've never seen a ref throw a flag at a press conference. That's pure league office shit (aka: GODell looking to "protect the shield" by forcing players to only wear clothes from sponsors and fining people who don't comply with really important things like that).

A better comparison would be how Tebow was allowed to Tebow during his career.
Those sponsors pay big, big, big bucks to the NFL so of course they will make the players wear that stuff after the games. Not surprising nor do I disagree.
Sep 30, 2014 1:32pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:34 PM
thavoice;1659030 wrote:Sounds very browns-ish.
I was extremely pissed at the late offensive play-calling. If they don't get a first down, even with a good punt, Tampa would probably have about 60 yards to go in a minute and I don't think I trust the defense against a team in a two-minute drill in that situation. On 3rd and 5, they did a basic run with Bell that fooled no one. Two yard loss. There are times to be conservative late in the game on offense. They were backed up too far in their territory, IMO, for that to be one of those times. Just get one first down and end the game. Don't play like bitches and then watch the other team surge past you.
Sep 30, 2014 1:34pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:39 PM
Heretic;1659034 wrote:I was extremely pissed at the late offensive play-calling. If they don't get a first down, even with a good punt, Tampa would probably have about 60 yards to go in a minute and I don't think I trust the defense against a team in a two-minute drill in that situation. On 3rd and 5, they did a basic run with Bell that fooled no one. Two yard loss. There are times to be conservative late in the game on offense. They were backed up too far in their territory, IMO, for that to be one of those times. Just get one first down and end the game. Don't play like bitches and then watch the other team surge past you.
..and week before the announcers bitched when the browns passed in that similiar situation and didnt connect! Still very disappointing!
Sep 30, 2014 1:39pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:42 PM
How fitting that Oakland names Tony Sparano as their interim head coach right after a loss to the LOLPhins.
Sep 30, 2014 1:42pm
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Sep 30, 2014 1:50 PM
BTW it's not just RG3 and Goodell. Kitbag was fined when he was with the Bengals for wearing a hat with a cross on it at his press conference.
Sep 30, 2014 1:50pm
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Sep 30, 2014 2:06 PM
thavoice;1659031 wrote:Those sponsors pay big, big, big bucks to the NFL so of course they will make the players wear that stuff after the games. Not surprising nor do I disagree.
They pay the leagues, not the players. The sponsor doesnt control the player, unless they have the player under contract.
Sep 30, 2014 2:06pm
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Sep 30, 2014 2:08 PM
Laley23;1659044 wrote:They pay the leagues, not the players. The sponsor doesnt control the player, unless they have the player under contract.
Salary cap takes money from the streams of revenue, and the apparel contract is one of them.
Sep 30, 2014 2:08pm
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Sep 30, 2014 2:24 PM
thavoice;1659046 wrote:Salary cap takes money from the streams of revenue, and the apparel contract is one of them.
According to NFL bylaws, players are prohibited from wearing clothing with personal messages on game-days.

If it was a Nike shirt, NFL would ok it because they have a deal with Nike...

But if someone wears a giant Addidas logo to the podium because they are sponsored by Addidas, the NFL isnt going to stop them and make them wear a Nike shirt. Its all about the personal message.


RG3 couldnt wear his "know Jesus, know Peace" shirt cause it was a personal message, not because it wasnt Nike. Because of that, he had to turn it inside out, not go get a shirt made by an NFL sponsor.
Sep 30, 2014 2:24pm
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Sep 30, 2014 2:26 PM
I'd love to see a player wear something with an Islamic saying (being serious), and see the NFL do the same thing. You know all hell would break loose.
Sep 30, 2014 2:26pm
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thavoice

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Sep 30, 2014 2:39 PM
Laley23;1659049 wrote:According to NFL bylaws, players are prohibited from wearing clothing with personal messages on game-days.

If it was a Nike shirt, NFL would ok it because they have a deal with Nike...

But if someone wears a giant Addidas logo to the podium because they are sponsored by Addidas, the NFL isnt going to stop them and make them wear a Nike shirt. Its all about the personal message.


RG3 couldnt wear his "know Jesus, know Peace" shirt cause it was a personal message, not because it wasnt Nike. Because of that, he had to turn it inside out, not go get a shirt made by an NFL sponsor.
You area correct on the personal message and that was the issue with RGIII, but I believe you are incorrect on your addidas analogy.
LOGOS AND COMMERCIAL IDENTIFICATION
Article 7

Throughout the period on game-day that a player is vis
ible to the stadium and television audience
(including in pregame warm-ups, in the bench area, and
during postgame interviews in the locker room or
on the field), players are prohibited from wearing, dis
playing, or orally promoting equipment, apparel, or
other items that carry commercial names or logos of com
panies, unless such commercial identification
has been approved in advance by the League office. Th
e size of any approved logo or other commercial
identification involved in an agreement between a ma
nufacturer and the League will be modest and
unobtrusive, and there is no assurance that it will be
visible to the television audience. Subject to any
future
approved arrangements with a manufacturer and subject to
any decision by the Commissioner to suspend
enforcement temporarily of this provision governing shoe
s, visible logos and names of shoes are
prohibited, including on the sole of the shoe that m
Sep 30, 2014 2:39pm
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Sep 30, 2014 11:29 PM
Ironman92;1659176 wrote:Like_that and COA....have you seen this commercial? Lol

I saw it yesterday and swear it was made for the sole purpose of trolling you two.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-commercials/0ap3000000397090/NFL-Shop-commercial
Yes. Total joke.
Sep 30, 2014 11:29pm
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Sep 30, 2014 11:36 PM
Ironman92;1659176 wrote:Like_that and COA....have you seen this commercial? Lol

I saw it yesterday and swear it was made for the sole purpose of trolling you two.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-commercials/0ap3000000397090/NFL-Shop-commercial
Yup. Like I have said before, every bandwagon fan has a story.
Sep 30, 2014 11:36pm
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Oct 1, 2014 12:10 AM
I just found it hilarious about the time they got to the Bengals babies and immediately thought of you two.
Oct 1, 2014 12:10am
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Oct 1, 2014 6:36 AM
Is that the commercial where a mother supports her children rooting for a rapist, Ben roethlisberger?
Oct 1, 2014 6:36am
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Oct 1, 2014 7:54 AM
SportsAndLady;1659216 wrote:Is that the commercial where a mother supports her children rooting for a rapist, Ben roethlisberger?
Probably. I didn't go watch it either but I'm assuming its the Vikings mother who's kids go on to be like a Bengals, Cowboys, Steelers and some other team fans.
Oct 1, 2014 7:54am
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Oct 1, 2014 8:59 AM
SportsAndLady;1659216 wrote:Is that the commercial where a mother supports her children rooting for a rapist, Ben roethlisberger?
Yep...it's got the whole package lol
Oct 1, 2014 8:59am
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Oct 1, 2014 9:03 AM
Iliketurtles;1659233 wrote:Probably. I didn't go watch it either but I'm assuming its the Vikings mother who's kids go on to be like a Bengals, Cowboys, Steelers and some other team fans.
That commercial made me lol. "We're a bunch of great Viking fans...but then my kids grew up and as soon as they left home, they became fans of other teams!"

The best part was the timing, with the Minnesota/Peterson situation and all. Team management has to be fuming at how their fanbase was essentially portrayed as rats fleeing a sinking ship there!
Oct 1, 2014 9:03am