darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 1, 2010 11:35pm
OSU will definately finish higher in the polls. I think OSU could end up going as high as 4 or 5 if the cards fall together right.
Unless the National Title Game is an absolute dead lock, Florida finishes #2 behind the winner of that game and the loser is at least #3
Unless the National Title Game is an absolute dead lock, Florida finishes #2 behind the winner of that game and the loser is at least #3
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Jan 1, 2010 11:36pm
People rip on Cinci for getting killed by Florida, but do OSU fans remember 06 against Florida when you were supposedly dominant? 41-14?
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BCSbunk
Posts: 972
Jan 1, 2010 11:36pm
I would be surprised if UC has ever finished ahead of Ohio St.Citybuck wrote: Lets see who finishes higher in the final polls....I bet OSU does again this year !
When was the last time UC finished in the final poll ranked higher than OSU ???????
athlete37
Posts: 992
Jan 1, 2010 11:36pm
And Ohio State jumps the undefeated Boise-TCU winner? You're out of your gorddarbypitcher22 wrote: OSU will definately finish higher in the polls. I think OSU could end up going as high as 4 or 5 if the cards fall together right.
Unless the National Title Game is an absolute dead lock, Florida finishes #2 behind the winner of that game and the loser is at least #3
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 1, 2010 11:37pm
Cincy isn't getting outcoached in this game like OSU did that night; Cincy just simply doesn't have the talent to compete. That's two completely different things
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 1, 2010 11:37pm
if TCU wins they'll be #4. Like I said, probably #4 or #5.
And it wouldn't suprise me if the Bucks DID hop the winner of that game. The pollsters have done crazier things before
And it wouldn't suprise me if the Bucks DID hop the winner of that game. The pollsters have done crazier things before
athlete37
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Jan 1, 2010 11:38pm
Fair enough
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Jan 1, 2010 11:39pm
That doesnt matter. OSU was ranked #1 and was a huge favorite to win that game. That's a bigger embarrassment then a #3 cinci getting beat by a #5 Florida when everyone knew UF would stomp them.darbypitcher22 wrote: Cincy isn't getting outcoached in this game like OSU did that night; Cincy just simply doesn't have the talent to compete. That's two completely different things
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 1, 2010 11:40pm
Again, nobody discounts that it was a huge embarrassment; I'm just pointing that little tidbit out
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 1, 2010 11:41pm
It happened twice this year. Let's call a spade a spade, USC wasn't a very good team this year. Tress snatched defeat from the jaws of victory that gamedarbypitcher22 wrote: you're bound to lose one you shouldn't every once in a while( it happens to USC yearly). Purdue was our game this year. It doesn't happen often under Tress. It happens a lot more often under other guys around the country
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cats gone wild
Posts: 2,651
Jan 1, 2010 11:41pm
Not a problem, and I see where you are coming from.darbypitcher22 wrote: Again, nobody discounts that it was a huge embarrassment; I'm just pointing that little tidbit out
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 1, 2010 11:42pm
Yeah no argument here. Just stating the reason why I feel that a lot of people were seriously considering UC to be betterDaBrowns41 wrote:
My rebuttal is, how many teams that have been great, and won a LOT of football games over the years have dropped to mediocre or worse teams?
I mean USC has what, 4 game losing streak each season to a less than stellar Pac-10 team on the road?
Florida lost to Ole Miss last season and went on the win a NC game.
Prior to this season, the only teams OSU was losing too were top 10 football teams, Texas, USC, Florida, LSU, etc.
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 1, 2010 11:43pm
While OSU was a significantly better team offensively, Florida was a much better team in 2006 than now. Their defense was absolutely dominant (not that they aren't great this year, but Alabama really exposed them).cats gone wild wrote: People rip on Cinci for getting killed by Florida, but do OSU fans remember 06 against Florida when you were supposedly dominant? 41-14?
I'm not trying to make excuses, but it's clear that Florida was a much better team in 2006, than 2009. I mean how many close calls did Florida have this season?
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Citybuck
Posts: 269
Jan 1, 2010 11:44pm
Yep, OSU will be ranked ahead of UC......Once again....don't get me wrong I coached two kids off last years UC good team and two off this years team (4 total) , but they aren't on OSU's level. OSU is much much deeper and has a much better defense....I wish OSU has UC's O-Coord though.
athlete37
Posts: 992
Jan 1, 2010 11:45pm
I do think it's unreasonable to say OSU is undoubtedly the best team. Can u for sure say OSU beats UC on a neutral site?
jordo212000
Posts: 10,664
Jan 1, 2010 11:47pm
No haha you can't. But all the evidence suggests that they would.athlete37 wrote: I do think it's unreasonable to say OSU is undoubtedly the best team. Can u for sure say OSU beats UC on a neutral site?
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 1, 2010 11:47pm
Not for sure. But I think the odds would be in OSU's favor strictly because of the defense.athlete37 wrote: I do think it's unreasonable to say OSU is undoubtedly the best team. Can u for sure say OSU beats UC on a neutral site?
The biggest knock on UC's offense was that they had not faced a talented team defensively. Like I said, Rutgers was the best defense they played statistically speaking, and Rutgers was helped out a lot by playing 2 FCS teams and 2 teams 3 years removed from the FCS.
There are no guarantees in college football, so it's be unreasonable to say that OSU would for sure win.
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Citybuck
Posts: 269
Jan 1, 2010 11:50pm
^^^Yes, without a running game OSU would pretty much control UC. jmo
SQ_Crazies
Posts: 7,977
Jan 2, 2010 12:04am
This hasn't even been a valid argument all season. And like I said, Cincy is getting destroyed against an actual good opponent. The Big East is and has been overrated.
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 2, 2010 12:08am
UC's defense is undersized and was exposed( most particularly by UCONN) when they faced a big offensive line that could run the football. OSU handled Oregon's high powered offense tonight; I'd like to think they could handle Cincy's
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 2, 2010 12:10am
Don't forget Illinois and Pitt exposing them as well.darbypitcher22 wrote: UC's defense is undersized and was exposed( most particularly by UCONN) when they faced a big offensive line that could run the football. OSU handled Oregon's high powered offense tonight; I'd like to think they could handle Cincy's
athlete37
Posts: 992
Jan 2, 2010 12:12am
Yes a Pitt team that was ranked in the top ten for a few weeks at the end of the season...
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DaBrowns41
Posts: 1,304
Jan 2, 2010 12:13am
What about Illinois? The worst offense in the Big 10...athlete37 wrote: Yes a Pitt team that was ranked in the top ten for a few weeks at the end of the season...
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Jan 2, 2010 12:13am
A Pitt team that lost to a 4-8 NC State team(WAY worse than any loss OSU had this year, Purdue started playing good football towards the end of the year) and laid an egg @ Morgantown
Strapping Young Lad
Posts: 2,453
Jan 2, 2010 12:16am
One team has one loss, to Florida
Other has two losses, to Purdue and USC.
Forget the names on the front of the jerseys, who's better???
OSU finally beats someone in a bowl game and now they are world beaters, acting like they don't know what it's like to get embarrassed by Florida on national TV.
41-14, 58-24. Not a world of difference in those scores.
Other has two losses, to Purdue and USC.
Forget the names on the front of the jerseys, who's better???
OSU finally beats someone in a bowl game and now they are world beaters, acting like they don't know what it's like to get embarrassed by Florida on national TV.
41-14, 58-24. Not a world of difference in those scores.