ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Aug 12, 2014 2:08pm
Don't you have trails to run?ccrunner609;1643172 wrote:let the loser play foououutball now cause within 2 years he will likely do something else stupid and end up in prison
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Aug 12, 2014 2:12pm
Just shut the fuck up, already.Belly35;1643457 wrote:Who are you guys blaming for this. The coach, school, player, community ???? ... lets be real
The kid was convicted, served time (minus 2 months) required to register every 6 months per the count and judge sentence.
Who to blame for this, let start with the guy who sign off on getting this kid out 2 months early, who did that?
Lets talk about a Liberal court system, lawyer and judge wanting to do what right but missed the target of common sense.
Blame the people and yourself who let Lawyers, Judges and Government System that so diluted our court system with skewed laws, over regulation and conflicting legal verbiage they don’t understand.
This kid is out playing ball because the system tht protects the criminal not the victim or the community that was violated … Perfect example of multiple DUI, Felons, Child Abuse, Domestic Violence offender out on the street, just waiting to do their deed again at tax payer, victim, family and innocent citizen expense.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Aug 12, 2014 2:14pm
Heretic;1643500 wrote:I know when I grew up, I was at least raised in a "sports are a privilege, not a right" household, where my participation was permitted based on me doing things like maintain good grades, do chores and such around the house and not getting into trouble.
Apparently, the Steubtards are just a wee bit different as far as that goes.
Yep. The country is upside down right now .......................but we can just leave it at that.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Aug 12, 2014 2:15pm
Fair point. Poor phrasing on my part. The court has deemed that he's ready to be assimilated back into society. I wouldn't have any problem if the team had decided not to let him back, but I also don't see any problem with allowing him to return. I think its naive (and counterproductive) to think that he should be shunned by the world.queencitybuckeye;1643498 wrote:Then he should not have to check in on a periodic basis as a registered sex offender?
His sentence is not over, he's just no longer in jail.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 12, 2014 2:23pm
I'm for second chances as well, but believe they should be earned, and doing so should have some amount of difficulty. Perhaps he should have been allowed to join the team as a student trainer. If he does that job, maybe he earns a uniform later in the year, but doesn't see the field, etc. etc.Mulva;1643509 wrote:Fair point. Poor phrasing on my part. The court has deemed that he's ready to be assimilated back into society. I wouldn't have any problem if the team had decided not to let him back, but I also don't see any problem with allowing him to return. I think its naive (and counterproductive) to think that he should be shunned by the world.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Aug 12, 2014 2:43pm
xactly.queencitybuckeye;1643510 wrote:I'm for second chances as well, but believe they should be earned, and doing so should have some amount of difficulty. Perhaps he should have been allowed to join the team as a student trainer. If he does that job, maybe he earns a uniform later in the year, but doesn't see the field, etc. etc.
A number of years ago we had a kid who got caught drinking out of town, like 100 miles away, before the games started. It was after the players signed their paperwork saying they would oblige by the rules and not drink or get suspended for the season. Kid informed the coaches he was caught, was suspended for the whole senior season (two way player) yet stayed on the team and helped in any way possible. He was held accountable for his actions, yet was still able to be a part of the team in a small capacity
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Aug 12, 2014 2:43pm
Have you ever played a sport? Not to many trainers turned players...except The Waterboy.queencitybuckeye;1643510 wrote:I'm for second chances as well, but believe they should be earned, and doing so should have some amount of difficulty. Perhaps he should have been allowed to join the team as a student trainer. If he does that job, maybe he earns a uniform later in the year, but doesn't see the field, etc. etc.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Aug 12, 2014 2:47pm
What he means is maybe the kid should have been allowed to join the team in a different capacity and if he earns the right maybe dress later in the season.rrfan;1643514 wrote:Have you ever played a sport? Not to many trainers turned players...except The Waterboy.
Only issue with this idea as he states though are the rules for practice and playing. Each player has to go through certain acclimation periods and such before being allowed to play
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Aug 12, 2014 3:17pm
Yes.rrfan;1643514 wrote:Have you ever played a sport?
You do understand that we're talking about an unusual situation, right?Not to many trainers turned players...except The Waterboy.
rrfan
Posts: 1,922
Aug 12, 2014 3:19pm
No had no idea...what is this about...shut up!queencitybuckeye;1643522 wrote:Yes.
You do understand that we're talking about an unusual situation, right?
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Aug 12, 2014 3:23pm
This is my thinking. You can try to blame the school. But if there is no rule in place prior to this happening, you can't really blame them for letting him play. Especially with it being a public school. You're asking for a lawsuit telling him he can't play since he did his time.Heretic;1643500 wrote:I know when I grew up, I was at least raised in a "sports are a privilege, not a right" household, where my participation was permitted based on me doing things like maintain good grades, do chores and such around the house and not getting into trouble.
Apparently, the Steubtards are just a wee bit different as far as that goes.
But the parents (or in this case, guardians) are big time pieces of shit for letting him play. My parents would have never let me near any extra curricular activities if I had gotten into trouble like this while I was in high school.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Aug 12, 2014 4:00pm
If I was on an opposing team I would get a roughing penalty on him if I had the chance
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Aug 12, 2014 4:03pm
I'd just go at his knees anytime he caught the ball.sportchampps;1643529 wrote:If I was on an opposing team I would get a roughing penalty on him if I had the chance
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Aug 12, 2014 4:40pm
I thought registered sex offenders aren't allowed near a school?sherm03;1643525 wrote:This is my thinking. You can try to blame the school. But if there is no rule in place prior to this happening, you can't really blame them for letting him play. Especially with it being a public school. You're asking for a lawsuit telling him he can't play since he did his time.
But the parents (or in this case, guardians) are big time pieces of shit for letting him play. My parents would have never let me near any extra curricular activities if I had gotten into trouble like this while I was in high school.
sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Aug 12, 2014 5:06pm
Juvenile sex offenders have different sets of restrictions. Since he was convicted when he was 17, I'm guessing he falls under these restrictions that would let him still attend school. That's why he has to register for 20 years instead of 25 like adult Tier 2 offenders.Tigerfan00;1643536 wrote:I thought registered sex offenders aren't allowed near a school?
The better question would be, if he's been locked up for the past 10 months, how is he eligible to play? I'm sure he was taking some coursework while he was in jail. But was it enough for him to be eligible for athletic participation?
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HelloAgain
Posts: 537
Aug 12, 2014 5:29pm
Belly35;1643457 wrote:Who are you guys blaming for this. The coach, school, player, community ???? ... lets be real
The kid was convicted, served time (minus 2 months) required to register every 6 months per the count and judge sentence.
Who to blame for this, let start with the guy who sign off on getting this kid out 2 months early, who did that?
Lets talk about a Liberal court system, lawyer and judge wanting to do what right but missed the target of common sense.
Blame the people and yourself who let Lawyers, Judges and Government System that so diluted our court system with skewed laws, over regulation and conflicting legal verbiage they don’t understand.
This kid is out playing ball because the system tht protects the criminal not the victim or the community that was violated … Perfect example of multiple DUI, Felons, Child Abuse, Domestic Violence offender out on the street, just waiting to do their deed again at tax payer, victim, family and innocent citizen expense.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 12, 2014 6:57pm
don't confuse Steubenville with the rest of the region. Everybody from the Valley is up in arms about it as well.Al Bundy;1643494 wrote:It is sad, but it is not surprising. This is the same region that worships an NFL QB that is a serial rapist.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 12, 2014 7:00pm
Valid point. This is what initially came to my mind as well.sherm03;1643539 wrote:.
The better question would be, if he's been locked up for the past 10 months, how is he eligible to play? I'm sure he was taking some coursework while he was in jail. But was it enough for him to be eligible for athletic participation?
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Trimmer36
Posts: 12
Aug 12, 2014 8:29pm
I suppose he is eligible to be a class officer and maybe homecoming king too!
Old Rider
Posts: 2,470
Aug 13, 2014 8:22am
Reno is a piece of shit. The coach makes the rules for his team (apparently in Steubenville there are no rules). Letting a convicted rapist back on the team. WHAT THE HELL???? Players and teachers are to be role models and teach life lessons with good morals/values/etc.
He is allowing a criminal to play on his team. SMH!!! The kid already got his second chance....its called being let out of jail!
If I had a daughter in this school I would be beating the doors down at the admin offices....what a shit hole school being run by a bunch of dumbasses!
He is allowing a criminal to play on his team. SMH!!! The kid already got his second chance....its called being let out of jail!
If I had a daughter in this school I would be beating the doors down at the admin offices....what a shit hole school being run by a bunch of dumbasses!
Fab4Runner
Posts: 6,196
Aug 13, 2014 11:07am
This response made me laugh.rrfan;1643524 wrote:No had no idea...what is this about...shut up!
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 13, 2014 3:01pm
Why isn't the white kid that got convicted too playing?
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Aug 13, 2014 3:15pm
He's still in a juvenile detention center. He was sentenced to 2 years.Tiernan;1643851 wrote:Why isn't the white kid that got convicted too playing?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Aug 13, 2014 3:22pm
They had to give the white kid more time since if a black guy got more time than a white it would be racism. The story was already emotionally charged enough; the last thing you need is people robbing everything in STE.Tiernan;1643851 wrote:Why isn't the white kid that got convicted too playing?
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Aug 13, 2014 10:37pm
So let me get this straight a white kid and a black kid gang rape an incoherent underage girl and the black kid gets less of a sentence then the white kid!?!
What kind of bizarro world is this?
What kind of bizarro world is this?