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Jul 22, 2014 10:41 AM
Rmolin, shut the hell up and quit when you are behind. Your links were shit. There is nothing wrong with pit bulls or german shepherds, but it takes a responsible owner to realize that they involve more discipline, training and control - because they can be aggressive and dangerous. Any reputable breeder, vet or shelter will tell you the same thing.

If you want to continue to embarrass yourself, do so.
Jul 22, 2014 10:41am
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Jul 22, 2014 10:43 AM
And BTW how old are you? This has been known since the 80's.
Jul 22, 2014 10:43am
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Jul 22, 2014 10:51 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637806 wrote:Rmolin, shut the hell up and quit when you are behind. Your links were shit. There is nothing wrong with pit bulls or german shepherds, but it takes a responsible owner to realize that they involve more discipline, training and control - because they can be aggressive and dangerous. Any reputable breeder, vet or shelter will tell you the same thing.

If you want to continue to embarrass yourself, do so.
The backtracking begins. You need to be better at this you pretentious twat. Also it appears that you are the one that is being embarrassed.
Jul 22, 2014 10:51am
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Jul 22, 2014 10:57 AM
I can't be better than you when being wrong.

I've been consistent the whole thread. Any idiot (and hoodrats and rednecks are excepted from that term), know what they are dealing with in a pit bull.
If that is pretentious, well deal with it. It is the truth.
Jul 22, 2014 10:57am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:04 AM
I volunteer at a DC animal shelter where 70% of the dogs there are pitbulls and I can tell you the EXCEPTION are the aggressive type. Most of them are like any other dog, very sweet and energetic and wouldn't hurt a fly. The few that come in that are aggressive and scary looking are the ones that come from homes where they are abused.

It's the cart before the horse problem where people assume pitbulls are bad because others have said pitbulls are bad.
Jul 22, 2014 11:04am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:05 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637636 wrote:^^^

Public (and incorrect and irresponsible) shaming.

Pits are a challenge, and they are difficult to control. No one has ever heard of a Golden Retriever going nuts on a neighborhood dog. Or turning on a toddler or adult. Pits can be great dogs, but it is a lot of work, and more work than the average dog. They have an aggressive nature that can be controlled, but it needs to be controlled at all times.
Once again I am not disputing anything you said about pit bulls. I just shot down your whole golden retriever analogy and you can't accept the fact that you were wrong. Keep spazzing out though it's hilarious!!!!!
Jul 22, 2014 11:05am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:13 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637685 wrote:There wasn't a need for a correction. Golden retrievers are bred to be friends of toddlers and other children. The next Golden Retriever that I see abusing a child will be the

Bred to be friends with children and toddlers? Link? If memory serves they were bred has hunting dogs . Also I must say for the first time in the history of oc I agree with sleeper
Jul 22, 2014 11:13am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:20 AM
rmolin73;1637822 wrote:Once again I am not disputing anything you said about pit bulls. I just shot down your whole golden retriever analogy and you can't accept the fact that you were wrong. Keep spazzing out though it's hilarious!!!!!
You posted a link that had a "stock" picture of a golden? None of your (and 145 LSAT boy's) links even came close to claiming, in any way, shape or form, that a Golden Retriever attacked anyone.
Jul 22, 2014 11:20am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:31 AM
Failing and flailing more huh? Let's see if you whine about links after this MB.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

There's a couple of golden retrievers on the list pal.
Jul 22, 2014 11:31am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:37 AM
Are you f--k tarded or super f--k tarded, that link proves my point, they are the most gentle creatures on the planet. So in decades of studies, they found .01% of a dog bred to be gentle (and likely raised by hood rats) that acted aggressively, as opposed to pit bulls.

Really?

-The study found that Pit bulls and Rottweilers alone accounted for 67% of deaths, but there were also several Bullmastiffs,Boxers, Bull Terriers, Great Danes, St. Bernards, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, a bulldog, and a Newfoundland.

- edit again, this BS gets worse, one of the "gotcha" links posts back to your original link about a random "golden retriever" (it was obviously a mixed breed) raised by trailer trash in South Carolina.
Jul 22, 2014 11:37am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:42 AM
MB apparently it went completely over your head that the point of my post is that just because you don't personally witness a Golden attack doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Of course you ignore the only part of the post that calls you out on your faulty logic. Truly, you are nowhere as close to as smart as you think you are and it's completely hilarious.
Jul 22, 2014 11:42am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:56 AM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637779 wrote:Compared to you guys, yes. I actually read the links. It was unclear if any of those dogs appeared to be pure bred Goldens, and it was mostly initial reports without any verification. If any person looks at legitimate reports of unprovoked attacks they will see that there are breeds that are over representative. And those that are non-existent.

You Rmolin and Arizona boy can circle jerk all you like, a golden retriever will not harm a soul unless they are raised by idiots that abuse them. There isn't a mean bone in their bodies. If they are raised by idiots that abuse them, they can act like any other animal (including humans). That isn't true with other breeds. Again for you idiots that doesn't make them bad dogs, but it does make them more challenging to raise socially around humans and other dogs.

Is that hard to comprehend?
How can you possibly know that ALL golden retrievers wouldnt harm a soul unless provoked? Thats all that we're arguing. There is absolutely positively no possible way for you to know that. But you are so arrogant in general and biased about Golden Retrievers that you cant even admit that. Its actually pretty funny
Jul 22, 2014 11:56am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:58 AM
rmolin73;1637734 wrote:A buddy of mines son's basketball went into the neighbors yard. The kid jumped the fence and the neighbors Cane Corso got bit him. The dog pretty much filleted the kids forearm open.
I believe it, they are much more aggressive and vicious than a pit bull. They would chew a pit bull up no problem.
Jul 22, 2014 11:58am
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Jul 22, 2014 11:59 AM
lhslep134;1637733 wrote:I've never even heard of those until you just said something. Google'd them, and damn those are some beasts.
Yeah if you see one just walk the other way lol
Jul 22, 2014 11:59am
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Jul 22, 2014 12:01 PM
KB0938;1637861 wrote:How can you possibly know that ALL golden retrievers wouldnt harm a soul unless provoked? Thats all that we're arguing. There is absolutely positively no possible way for you to know that. But you are so arrogant in general and biased about Golden Retrievers that you cant even admit that. Its actually pretty funny

Look at snapperhead's link. Damn, there are some serious golden retriever problems in America! They weren't even goldens, you guys aren't even arguing, you're just being pissed at me for calling you out for being ignorant.
Jul 22, 2014 12:01pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:05 PM
Im not sugguesting that there is a problem with Golden Retrievers in the United States. Im simply saying theyre like any other animal and are more than capable of attacking unprovoked. While that number may be low, its obviously not zero and basic logic dictates that you cannot possibly be 100% sure of something with so many variables. Unless of course you're MB apparently
Jul 22, 2014 12:05pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:10 PM
Which has what to do with anything I said? If you can find a golden retriever (pure-bred, not a hood rat cross bred dog) that just randomly unprovoked attacked a toddler, Id like to see it. Rmolin and Arizona boy couldn't do it.
Jul 22, 2014 12:10pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:12 PM
I'm just happy one of my threads actually got three pages of quality conversation.

Just a fyi - I have nothing against pit bulls. Most dogs are stupid but some are more than others.

(just dropping on. Please continue the debate)
Jul 22, 2014 12:12pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:15 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637864 wrote:They weren't even goldens
http://www.northjersey.com/news/dog-bites-off-part-of-girl-s-ear-1.208146

You're absolutely, positively correct that the links I posted aren't goldens. In fact, let me quote the article I posted to show that you're right.
Capt. Thomas reports that the girl was running down Bartholdi Avenue when a golden retriever darted out from a neighbor's yard and attacked her, causing several puncture wounds to her forearm and taking off part of her left ear.


Oh wait....
Jul 22, 2014 12:15pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:17 PM
I also thoroughly enjoy how MB calls me Arizona, it couldn't fit better with my user title. Especially after he fails spectacularly like he just did.
Jul 22, 2014 12:17pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:29 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637845 wrote:- edit again, this BS gets worse, one of the "gotcha" links posts back to your original link about a random "golden retriever" (it was obviously a mixed breed) raised by trailer trash in South Carolina.
May 14 Golden Retriever Toni Lynn Edgeworth 5 years The girl was bitten by her neighbor's dog, with which she had played before. The attack was reported to have been unprovoked.[SUP][40][/SUP]

Not a mix-breed.

However, it was the only one ever recorded.

The most surprising thing on that wiki page? How many Lab (albeit, mixes) were on there (including a Lab/Golden mix). Never would peg them for that.
Jul 22, 2014 12:29pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:30 PM
Just saying you fail doesn't make it so....no one (especially you) even came close to refuting my comment....but be proud of that Arizona law degree!

- edit, "The most surprising thing on that wiki page? How many Lab (albeit, mixes)", not surprising if one goes to shelters, the most common mixes are lab/shepherd and lab/pit. That can be very challenging for a new owner.
Jul 22, 2014 12:30pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:36 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637874 wrote:Just saying you fail doesn't make it so....no one (especially you) even came close to refuting my comment....but be proud of that Arizona law degree!

- edit, "The most surprising thing on that wiki page? How many Lab (albeit, mixes)", not surprising if one goes to shelters, the most common mixes are lab/shepherd and lab/pit. That can be very challenging for a new owner.
Just admit you were wrong and move on.
Jul 22, 2014 12:36pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:40 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1637874 wrote:Just saying you fail doesn't make it so....no one (especially you) even came close to refuting my comment....but be proud of that Arizona law degree!
Except you did fail because you said "weren't even goldens" and then I showed you a link with a Golden. On top of that, the fact you continually bring up UofA law is the sure sign of an insecure little bitch, a title that you've made unequivocally applicable to you.

It's okay though, I'd probably be an insecure little bitch too if someone who went to "lowly" UofA law was clearly smarter than me.
Jul 22, 2014 12:40pm
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Jul 22, 2014 12:44 PM
like_that;1637876 wrote:Just admit you were wrong and move on.
MB literally cannot do that.

Be will instead resort to making fun of where you went to college and your graduate school test grades.

What a fucking loser.
Jul 22, 2014 12:44pm