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TedSheckler;1621786 wrote:Obama broke the law in this deal. He bypassed Congress yet again. Congress was supposed to be notified of any Gitmo transfers with at least a 30-day notice.
Impeach.
Jun 2, 2014 9:50am
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I don't understand how anyone can defend this. We have check and balances for a reason. Obama has went around our system to do his own thing again.
Jun 2, 2014 9:50am
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No prisoner left behind.
Jun 2, 2014 9:57am
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I Wear Pants;1621788 wrote:I have no idea. I wasn't commenting on the congressional approval part but on the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" thing.
So there are a few examples in our history that we negotiate with terrorists. But to just do so on your own? Can't be doing that.
Jun 2, 2014 10:15am
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sportchampps;1621792 wrote:I don't understand how anyone can defend this. We have check and balances for a reason. Obama has went around our system to do his own thing again.
Agreed. This is getting to be a trend, and not a good one at that.
Jun 2, 2014 10:38am
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“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting."

-Bergdahl
Jun 2, 2014 10:39am
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Other soldiers were killed searching for this deserter when he went AWOL in 2009. I doubt their Mom's & Dad's are getting hosted at the White House.
Jun 2, 2014 10:42am
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ohiobucks1;1621822 wrote:“I am ashamed to be an American. And the title of US soldier is just the lie of fools,” he concluded. “I am sorry for everything. The horror that is America is disgusting."

-Bergdahl

If this quote is legit, then send him back....with an IED stuck up his ass.
Jun 2, 2014 10:43am
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Tiernan;1621823 wrote:Other soldiers were killed searching for this deserter when he went AWOL in 2009. I doubt their Mom's & Dad's are getting hosted at the White House.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/we-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html


I'm pretty moderate in my political leans by every stretch imaginable, but this shit is crazy. Obama lost what support I had left for him, with this decision.
Jun 2, 2014 11:11am
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Dude seemed mentally unstable and had to know what he was getting into by wandering off base. Soldiers already died searching for him. I'd hate to see more blood shed via any terror attack, US or foreign if the 5 guys released link back up with the Taliban at some point.
Jun 2, 2014 11:16am
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The parents are being hosted at the WH? Why? For having a lunatic of a son?
Jun 2, 2014 11:18am
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Manhattan Buckeye;1621836 wrote:The parents are being hosted at the WH? Why? For having a lunatic of a son?
Waffle House?
Jun 2, 2014 11:25am
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They should be sentenced to 3 meals a day at the Waffle House. That would teach them a lesson.
Jun 2, 2014 11:27am
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None of this makes any damn sense.
Jun 2, 2014 11:48am
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WebFire;1621843 wrote:None of this makes any damn sense.
I don't understand how Obama wasn't told by someone that this guy basically is looked upon as a deserter.

How does the decision get made to essentially trade Taliban members for a deserter?

Makes no sense
Jun 2, 2014 11:59am
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I Wear Pants;1621767 wrote:But I honestly don't see the issue in releasing them to get soldiers back. Hell we need to do something with them unless you think it's morally acceptable to just keep them there forever which isn't how POWs are usually treated. And if they aren't POWs then what the hell are they and why do we have them?
Ummm the issue is you are sending known terrorist MASTERMINDS back to the sandbox. These aren't joe schmo nut jobs, these were high up terrorists. And we didn't get a "soldier" back, we got a scum bag traitor. And it is morally acceptable for terrorists to be held in Gitmo. I love lefty's sympathizing with terrorists. You are disgusting.
Jun 2, 2014 12:04pm
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iclfan2;1621854 wrote:Ummm the issue is you are sending known terrorist MASTERMINDS back to the sandbox. These aren't joe schmo nut jobs, these were high up terrorists. And we didn't get a "soldier" back, we got a scum bag traitor. And it is morally acceptable for terrorists to be held in Gitmo. I love lefty's sympathizing with terrorists. You are disgusting.
I did get a good kick out of Pants trying to make us feel sorry for terrorists in gitmo lol
Jun 2, 2014 12:07pm
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iclfan2;1621854 wrote:Ummm the issue is you are sending known terrorist MASTERMINDS back to the sandbox. These aren't joe schmo nut jobs, these were high up terrorists. And we didn't get a "soldier" back, we got a scum bag traitor. And it is morally acceptable for terrorists to be held in Gitmo. I love lefty's sympathizing with terrorists. You are disgusting.
Not to mention the law was broken...
Jun 2, 2014 12:10pm
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iclfan2;1621854 wrote:Ummm the issue is you are sending known terrorist MASTERMINDS back to the sandbox. These aren't joe schmo nut jobs, these were high up terrorists. And we didn't get a "soldier" back, we got a scum bag traitor. And it is morally acceptable for terrorists to be held in Gitmo. I love lefty's sympathizing with terrorists. You are disgusting.
Please. Masterminds? Everyone we capture is a "high ranking Taliban member". It's like they're all generals.

Sympathizing with terrorists? What are you a child? Asking questions about the nature and length of confinement doesn't equate to supporting terrorism.

Either way, even if we assume the dude is a scumbag deserter he's still an American citizen and any punishment or anything like that should be dealt by us, not with a machete and a video camera in a cave.
Jun 2, 2014 12:11pm
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SportsAndLady;1621847 wrote:I don't understand how Obama wasn't told by someone that this guy basically is looked upon as a deserter
Well then fuck due process. He's looked upon as a deserter and that is good enough reason for me to let him rot. Certainly an American soldier is not a person entitled to rights under the Fifth Amendment.

A fucking email and the claims that he was a deserter is enough to suspend his rights as an American?
Jun 2, 2014 12:12pm
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like_that;1621858 wrote:Not to mention the law was broken...
I drove over the speed limit today.
Jun 2, 2014 12:13pm
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Not to mention these 5 guys probably hate us more now than ever... they were probably tortured and questioned like crazy and would love to get some revenge.

also, how is this guy not being held for being awol. A guy in my wife's unit was in trouble with the law and went awol to Poland. He tried to come back to the states about 6 months later and was arrested and is about to start his trial. He's going to prison for a long time.

I'd guess the military will want this guy tried, but the administration won't allow it. We better have our eyes on this guy at all times..him and his dad seem like the next home grown terrorists.
Jun 2, 2014 12:13pm
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Mohican00;1621861 wrote:I drove over the speed limit today.
LMAO, yes because the president doing anything he wants by bypassing all checks and balances is the same thing as a petty crime. You have to be kidding me if that's your defense.

Also if you were caught speeding, you would have paid the price. Obama blatantly broke the law and everyone knows it. He should pay the price as well.
Jun 2, 2014 12:17pm
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like_that;1621863 wrote:LMAO, yes because the president doing anything he wants by bypassing all checks and balances is the same thing as a petty crime. You have to be kidding me if that's your defense.

Also if you were caught speeding, you would have paid the price. Obama blatantly broke the law and everyone knows it. He should pay the price as well.
So what's more important to you? Adhering to a 30 day transfer notice to Congress while the only remaining captive soldier that you've know about for years is in serious declining health? Or reinforcement our nation's commitment to leave no service member behind?

edit: captive
Jun 2, 2014 12:24pm