Pick6;1616273 wrote:its becoming more and more obvious to me that Sam cares more about some gay movement (shocker, called him an attention whore from the beginning) than he does actually playing football. I bet he doesn't make the 53 man roster.

like_that;1615647 wrote:I don't really see the problem with this. His son is very young and so far has probably grown up seeing only a man and a woman kiss. It's not surprising at all that he had a "DAFUQ?!?!" reaction to it. I am sure his son would have the same type of reaction if he walked in on vdubbs watching porn. In that same scenario im sure vdubbs would have changed the channel as well. You can be tolerant and support others' way of life and also wish not to see it. I don't see the problem with that. I don't really give a fuck if you are gay or straight, and I believe gay marriages should be recognized, however I will openly admit that it still makes me uncomfortable to watch two men go in full out make out sessions. Does it mean I am intolerant to their way of life? No, I just rather not watch it. It's the same shit when there are sexually explicit gay scenes in movies/shows (I.e. Wolf of Wall Street, true blood, californication, etc). I don't really feel like watching that stuff, so sorry I'm not sorry that I turn my head away when those type of scenes come on.

Say is he trolling all you want, but COA, your posts are a prime example of what sleeper is talking about. Gay activists have taken such an extreme approach that it is off putting for a lot of people and that includes people like me who support their cause. They take the "we believe in this and if you don't you are an intolerant piece of shit closed minded red neck!!!!!" approach. Instead of taking a peaceful approach to preach their cause, they verbally attack anybody that isn't on their side. I assume this is an attempt place fears on others to not provide their opposing stance.

I just find it very hypocritical that the same people who are preaching tolerance and open mindedness are the same people who attack others for not having the same views. Perhaps these people grew up a certain way and it will take a bit more time for them to come around... Attacking them sure won't help. Yes, there will be some old people who will never change their stance, but fortunately our society changes by each era and as a whole we become more tolerant. It happened with African Americans and women in this country, and it will happen for gays.

In summary, I agree with sleeper, some people need to just grow the fuck up.

reclegend22;1616354 wrote:Mike Sam is without question a national hero at this point, and one day his courage in the face of adversity will be recognized in the same light as George Washington and Helen Keller.

reclegend22;1616354 wrote:Mike Sam is without question a national hero at this point, and one day his courage in the face of adversity will be recognized in the same light as George Washington and Helen Keller.

Ironman92;1616348 wrote:Good post

Rotinaj;1616322 wrote:I saw something about a reality tv show on twitter.

Manhattan Buckeye;1616385 wrote:The best post on the thread....If the radicals had their way unless you are gay, you are homophobic. But they are radicals and aren't representative of the greater group or our citizenry. They just have Ivy league credentials because a degree in Angry Studies from Yale is now considered better than an electrical engineering degree from Purdue.

How has that worked out for us?

steubbigred;1616409 wrote:Not in my book. Real people build things and actually help this country. Ivy league philosophers are just like the ancient Greek philosophers and in the Sam case in more ways than one. Pun intended.

Manhattan Buckeye;1616429 wrote:I don't think anyone is going there, but there is a lot of attention and adoration brought to Sam, Collins and likely future athletes that ignores people that have struggled in their relationships. Jason Collins is a jerk. He had a girlfriend for many years (Moos?) and certainly cheated on her with other men. When he finally came clean in their relationship the American media treated him as a hero. He cheated on his long-term partner! She unquestionably had to get a doctor's exam to make sure she didn't have an STD. How is this progress?

Manhattan Buckeye;1616432 wrote:I would think absolutely so...you don't just turn gay in a moment, and not have sex with a dude whilst married to a woman. The same thing happened to my mother-in-law. Fortunately for her that was a time before HIV was an issue. It was still devastating for her. The media makes icons out of some people yet ignore the struggles of others. I don't think I'll ever get it.

Manhattan Buckeye;1616449 wrote:Agreed, it isn't as if birth control is expensive or unavailable. I wonder if some people just have random sex in the heat of the moment - certainly never happened to me.

I Wear Pants;1616430 wrote:Did Collins cheat on her? If so that's shitty. Coming out is hard and everything but that's not something that I think is easily excusable. It sucks and is awkward and will probably make a lot of people angry but if you've been in a straight relationship and you realize you're gay or want to start living as yourself you owe it to those people to be honest about it.

The progress is that increasingly kids are able to come out as teens rather than having to wait until college for fear of ending up homeless or being punished for something they can't control. Yours is a valid concern but I haven't seen anyone lauding Collins or anyone for cheating. Applauding someone for one thing doesn't mean approval of everything they do.

I Wear Pants;1616451 wrote:Yeah people are sometimes like "well we met at a party/club and things just went from there". Well usually people are trying to hook up at parties and clubs so take a damn condom you idiot.

sleeper;1616465 wrote:I've had sex with a staggering amount of women and have yet to use a condom. Never gotten a girl pregnant and I don't have any STDs.

sleeper;1616465 wrote:I've had sex with a staggering amount of women and have yet to use a condom. Never gotten a girl pregnant and I don't have any STDs. STDs are for the gays.

sleeper;1616465 wrote:I've had sex with a staggering amount of women and have yet to use a condom. Never gotten a girl pregnant and I don't have any STDs. STDs are for the gays.

vball10set;1616468 wrote:This is just plain stupid, even for you.

sleeper;1616474 wrote:Not really. Choose your partners wisely and you're fine.