Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Apr 30, 2014 8:37am
A Colorado public school that has predominately Arabic students decided to Change God, to Allah in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Hilarity ensues..
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/06/19192-high-school-students-read-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/
[LEFT]US High School Recites Pledge In Arabic: “One Nation Under Allah”
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/us-high-school-recites-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/#mCCeUlYA3gfhGlA5.99
US High School Recites Pledge In Arabic: “One Nation Under Allah”
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/us-high-school-recites-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/#mCCeUlYA3gfhGlA5.99
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Hilarity ensues..
Principal Tom Lopez denies any attempt to push an Islamic agenda, saying, “These students love this country. They were not being un-American in trying to do this. They believed they were accentuating the meaning of the words as spoken regularly in English.”
LulzMany of the parents are upset specifically over the fact that the Arabic translation of the Pledge replaces “one nation under God” with “one nation under Allah.”
Some parents have even accused Principal Lopez of “pushing a Muslim Brotherhood agenda — to push Islam into the school.”
http://www.mrconservative.com/2013/06/19192-high-school-students-read-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/
[LEFT]US High School Recites Pledge In Arabic: “One Nation Under Allah”
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/us-high-school-recites-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/#mCCeUlYA3gfhGlA5.99
US High School Recites Pledge In Arabic: “One Nation Under Allah”
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/us-high-school-recites-pledge-in-arabic-one-nation-under-allah/#mCCeUlYA3gfhGlA5.99
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salto
Posts: 2,611
Apr 30, 2014 10:13am
Legalize pot and look what happens.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Apr 30, 2014 11:14am
When the pledge was written, to which "god" was it referring? The baptist god? The catholic god? Allah?
While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 30, 2014 11:19am
The original, written by Francis Bellamy in 1892, did not have "under god" in it.ernest_t_bass;1611181 wrote:When the pledge was written, to which "god" was it referring? The baptist god? The catholic god? Allah?
While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
The phrase "under God" was incorporated into the Pledge of Allegiance June 14, 1954, by a joint resolution of Congress. You can thank a lawyer from Illinois and the KOC for getting that started
Devils Advocate
Posts: 4,539
Apr 30, 2014 11:24am
This is why all religion should be out of public schools. If you have to referee the content, somebody is always going to get pissed.ernest_t_bass;1611181 wrote:
While I think this is incredibly stupid, I can unfortunately see both sides of this.
Wait until someone want to invoke the name of Satan.
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 30, 2014 12:59pm
I laugh at their "reasoning" as it just being the Arabic translation when in fact they only changed one word. I can see that reason MAYBE if they said the whole pledge in Arabic, but to only change the one word does send a "message" of some sort.
Now, is this worth being all up in arms about? Probably not, I would just have my kids go to a different school or tell them they should say the pledge the "right way" without changing the words.
Now, is this worth being all up in arms about? Probably not, I would just have my kids go to a different school or tell them they should say the pledge the "right way" without changing the words.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 30, 2014 1:05pm
Wow - such hurtful, divisive and offensive remarks, made in a public setting no less: they should be fined, banned from the school, and have their assets seized.
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Apr 30, 2014 1:08pm
Is there a private entity that presides over the school that is having their bylaws violated?QuakerOats;1611242 wrote:Wow - such hurtful, divisive and offensive remarks, made in a public setting no less: they should be fined, banned from the school, and have their assets seized.
However, had the government not caved in to the Knights of Columbus and inserted shit that doesn't belong in the pledge into it in the first place, this would not be an issue.
In closing, fucking Catholics.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
Apr 30, 2014 1:13pm
Why don't they say it however they choose, and those of other faiths (or none) can say it the way they choose.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 30, 2014 1:18pm
ts1227;1611243 wrote:Is there a private entity that presides over the school that is having their bylaws violated?
Do I really have to put in the sarcasm disclaimer when it is completely evident?
ts1227
Posts: 12,319
Apr 30, 2014 1:22pm
Yes. Given your general ideology it wouldn't have been too far flung for you to have been serious there.QuakerOats;1611248 wrote:Do I really have to put in the sarcasm disclaimer when it is completely evident?
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 30, 2014 1:43pm
Even I know it is perfectly ok to slam Catholics and other Christians, but one negative blurb about Muslims or blacks and look out; the leftist, thought police mobs will destroy you.
The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 30, 2014 2:10pm
And? What's the issue?QuakerOats;1611263 wrote:The hypocrisy is immeasurable.
I've never understood the hypocrisy argument as it extends in this situation with religion. Are Christians being fed to the lions in this country? Is Christianity as an established religious organization on the brink of collapse? Are people taking to the streets in droves to undermine the church's authority?
The only about it is that it's unfair. Yeah, life is unfair. Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people won't make you feel any better.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Apr 30, 2014 2:16pm
I think you're exaggerating a little, there.Mohican00;1611280 wrote:Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 30, 2014 2:17pm
I don't know about that. As much random crying about all the multiverse's horrible unfairnesses perpetrated against him and people like him as he does, it must have some sort of therapeutic value. A placebo effect, perhaps, but an effect nonetheless.Mohican00;1611280 wrote:Crying about it on an internet message board with tens of people won't make you feel any better.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 30, 2014 2:23pm
well it doesn't last very goddamn longHeretic;1611288 wrote:A placebo effect, perhaps, but an effect nonetheless.
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QuakerOats
Posts: 8,740
Apr 30, 2014 2:25pm
Mohican00;1611280 wrote:I've never understood the hypocrisy argument as it extends in this situation with religion..
Obviously.
We will continue to turn the other cheek.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Apr 30, 2014 2:30pm
Just like crack. You have to keep doing more and more and more and more and more.Mohican00;1611292 wrote:well it doesn't last very goddamn long
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 30, 2014 2:34pm
What's this "we" shit? You need to get with the program, fire up the that fucking airbrush gunQuakerOats;1611295 wrote:We will continue to turn the other cheek.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
May 1, 2014 12:24am
Newsflash. It's the same God
JD413
Posts: 131
May 1, 2014 6:00am
Newsflash. There is no god.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 1, 2014 6:37am
isn't allah and god the same ?
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
May 1, 2014 1:34pm
Yup. Jews, Christians, Muslims all have the same God lolsteubbigred;1611488 wrote:isn't allah and god the same ?
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 1, 2014 1:50pm
God is a general term. Some religions have several. I just ask isn't allah another word for god used by the muslim's?Classyposter58;1611624 wrote:Yup. Jews, Christians, Muslims all have the same God lol
Incidentally I don't like people changing words around to suit there religions or anything else. Not if favor of this behavior and it's probably only used to incite the atheist crowd.
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queencitybuckeye
Posts: 7,117
May 1, 2014 2:17pm
Then the "atheist crowd" (if they're so damn smart, shouldn't they get the i before e thing correct?) should grow thicker skin. As should those people of any religion when the atheists attempt to incite them.steubbigred;1611625 wrote:God is a general term. Some religions have several. I just ask isn't allah another word for god used by the muslim's?
Incidentally I don't like people changing words around to suit there religions or anything else. Not if favor of this behavior and it's probably only used to incite the atheist crowd.