Laley23;1611127 wrote:I seriously cannot grasp why he thinks we are all as bad as him? I dont know anyone who has said stuff like that and actually meant it.

Gblock;1611058 wrote:when all else fails call black people animals in a last ditch effort to get someone to call you a racist so you can go on your weekly rant about how everytime a white person says something critical of blacks they are racist. epic fail.

rmolin73;1611076 wrote:What a whiny little man. You mad buddy?

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1611081 wrote:I'm not disagreeing with that.

My point is no one can talk shit about what kind of person he is b/c we all do the same thing.

That being said, there are consequences in life and he's going to deal with them now.
But don't act for one second like this man is any worse than you.

Gblock;1611109 wrote:yes i think its worse if you say i hope no blacks come to my door over jehovahs' witnesses. i do think there are degrees of hatefulness, each person makes judgements everyday on things and most people have judged this to be extremely hatefull more so than other things mentioned.

if feel they were way worse and showed true racism in the form that you think one class or race of people is inferior to another

sleeper;1611142 wrote:Do you believe all races are equal?

sleeper;1611142 wrote:Do you believe all races are equal?

Gblock;1611146 wrote:i do think all men are created equal and no one race is better than any other race. if i had a daughter she could marry any race she pleased. i bet a lot of people on here cant say that:huh:

sleeper;1611149 wrote:I wouldn't care if my daughter brought home any race but you're kidding yourself if you think all races are equal. Doesn't take much of an effort to look at statistics in this country and realize certain races lead in undesirable categories that most people would attribute with inferiority. Add in other hand helping mechanisms like AA and anti-discrimination laws(read: we sue you if you don't hire or fire us laws) and I could make a case a race is inferior.

Not a popular opinion I'm sure, but that's part of the problem. We can't have an honest conversation about race and/or race relations because we pretend that everything is A-OKAY and that certain races are only in the spot they are in because of external factors. That's why I constantly remark, when are they going to grow up and FIX THEIR OWN PROBLEMS? Until that happens, all races are not equal nor will they ever be equal. However should they all be treated equal, well yeah; but they are not equal.

Gblock;1611152 wrote:i guess we agree to disagree

sleeper;1611156 wrote:Why is race immune to standard metrics of determining which is better and which is not? This happens all the time in society, job interviews, sporting events, pop culture statistics(who's the fattest, who's the smartest, etc), but somehow race is seen as blindly equal because it sounds PC.

Probably more a philosophy discussion for a different thread, so feel free to go back to the main topic if you want.

Gblock;1611164 wrote:i think if you take two babies of different races and give them the same upbringing in the same household you will get similar if not identical results....nature vs. nuture type thing i beieve the environment is determining factor in success/behavior. on my visits to wva to see that side of my family i see stunning examples of these undesirable qualities in my white side of family and when i go to weirton or stuebenville i see the same qualities on my black side.

Gblock;1611109 wrote:yes i think its worse if you say i hope no blacks come to my door over jehovahs' witnesses. i do think there are degrees of hatefulness, each person makes judgements everyday on things and most people have judged this to be extremely hatefull more so than other things mentioned.

Heretic;1611123 wrote:Is Zwick one of those people who, when people are talking about a sports team and criticize the performance of a player, immediately jumps in with an "You have no right to say anything unless you've played at that level!" sort of comment? Because that's the same sort of moronic logic as "You can't say anything about this guy because you're all bad, bad people, too!"

Laley23;1611127 wrote:I seriously cannot grasp why he thinks we are all as bad as him? I dont know anyone who has said stuff like that and actually meant it.

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1611175 wrote:Why? .. b/c it affects you personally. What makes a jehovahs witness less important than a black peson? Either way you're discriminating that person. One isnt better than the other.

And you just proved my point of whats wrong with our thinking. It's ok to mock or discriminate a religion, but damnit not a skin color. What fucking sense does that make? None.

Gblock;1611179 wrote:no i grew up a witness and my mom still is one...besides that most people dont want them coming to their door...that doesnt bother me. if you said i dont want a black witness coming to my door thats worse is my point. or if you didnt want a black person at all coming to my door that bothers me. most people dont want any religion coming to their door. most people either have a religion already or dont like religion so its pretty common to not want people knocking on your door for that purpose

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1611182 wrote:whether it bothers you or not is moot point. you as a black man getting told dont come around my daughter, you're black, you have nothing in common. isnt any worse than a catholic getting told dont come around my daughter, you're catholic, you have nothing in common. but thats accepted in our country.