TedSheckler
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 7:14am
                            
                        
                                Call before you dig. So they say.
                            
                        ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 7:21am
                            
                        
                                I'm beginning to think Justin is the creator of this very famous picture.  Quality looks about the same.
                            
                        
                            Devils Advocate
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 8:09am
                            
                        
                                I think you should walk your spigot first. Then work it up to a jog before you attempt to run it. 
Safety first!
                        Safety first!
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 9:37am
                            
                        You mean the sketch I spent 30 seconds on isn't a masterpiece? No way!ernest_t_bass;1608210 wrote:I'm beginning to think Justin is the creator of this very famous picture. Quality looks about the same.
ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 9:41am
                            
                        Lighten up, Francis.justincredible;1608237 wrote:You mean the sketch I spent 30 seconds on isn't a masterpiece? No way!
SnotBubbles
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 9:58am
                            
                        
                                Tell the plumbers you'll do the trenching, backfill and buy the material.  All you want is a labor price.  That will save you significant money.
However, you need someone other than OUPS (they won't come on private property) to come out and locate any under ground lines...because based on your drawing you will probably encounter some. You have to hand dig 3' on both sides of those.
A walk behind trencher will set you back $200. I just put 2 in for our ball fields, material will cost you less than $500 (we ran about 400' of water line for that much).
                        However, you need someone other than OUPS (they won't come on private property) to come out and locate any under ground lines...because based on your drawing you will probably encounter some. You have to hand dig 3' on both sides of those.
A walk behind trencher will set you back $200. I just put 2 in for our ball fields, material will cost you less than $500 (we ran about 400' of water line for that much).
ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 10:04am
                            
                        This guy is in the construction business (legos) so I'd listen to what he says.SnotBubbles;1608246 wrote:Tell the plumbers you'll do the trenching, backfill and buy the material. All you want is a labor price. That will save you significant money.
However, you need someone other than OUPS (they won't come on private property) to come out and locate any under ground lines...because based on your drawing you will probably encounter some. You have to hand dig 3' on both sides of those.
A walk behind trencher will set you back $200. I just put 2 in for our ball fields, material will cost you less than $500 (we ran about 400' of water line for that much).
                                        
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                                                                WebFire
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 10:52am
                            
                        Yes they do.SnotBubbles;1608246 wrote:
However, you need someone other than OUPS (they won't come on private property)
Tigerfan00
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 12:42pm
                            
                        I think this is a better idea of what we are dealing with at Justin's house instead of his terrible drawing.
SnotBubbles
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:02pm
                            
                        No, they do not.WebFire;1608272 wrote:Yes they do.
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:22pm
                            
                        I don't have a garage.Tigerfan00;1608324 wrote:
I think this is a better idea of what we are dealing with at Justin's house instead of his terrible drawing.
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:24pm
                            
                        
                                What if I just ran a line out of the back of our basement, not buried, and attach it to one of the posts of the deck instead of running it all the way to the back of the yard? I realize this could freeze, but couldn't I just put a valve on the inside of the basement and turn the water off to the outside and then drain the line before cold weather hits?
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:27pm
                            
                        SnotBubbles;1608246 wrote:Tell the plumbers you'll do the trenching, backfill and buy the material. All you want is a labor price. That will save you significant money.
However, you need someone other than OUPS (they won't come on private property) to come out and locate any under ground lines...because based on your drawing you will probably encounter some. You have to hand dig 3' on both sides of those.
A walk behind trencher will set you back $200. I just put 2 in for our ball fields, material will cost you less than $500 (we ran about 400' of water line for that much).
Dont believe that is true. I know for a couple places I worked for we would call and request OUPS to come out and do a locate on their lines even in private property. Pretty sure they had a campaign about it.
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GoChiefs
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:28pm
                            
                        OUPS is just a notification center. They don't do the actual line marking. They just contact the utility companies after you have called them.WebFire;1608272 wrote:Yes they do.
ernest_t_bass
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:37pm
                            
                        Is this rhetorical, b/c it sounds like it is something you already know that you can do.justincredible;1608343 wrote:What if I just ran a line out of the back of our basement, not buried, and attach it to one of the posts of the deck instead of running it all the way to the back of the yard? I realize this could freeze, but couldn't I just put a valve on the inside of the basement and turn the water off to the outside and then drain the line before cold weather hits?
4cards
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 1:41pm
                            
                        ...why not just move your trailer....errr...house closer to the shed and save all the time & expense?justincredible;1608343 wrote:What if I just ran a line out of the back of our basement, not buried, and attach it to one of the posts of the deck instead of running it all the way to the back of the yard? I realize this could freeze, but couldn't I just put a valve on the inside of the basement and turn the water off to the outside and then drain the line before cold weather hits?
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 2:00pm
                            
                        Not rhetorical, just throwing the idea out there for feedback. I'm certain it can be done, just not sure if it's a good idea or not.ernest_t_bass;1608353 wrote:Is this rhetorical, b/c it sounds like it is something you already know that you can do.
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                                Apr 23, 2014 2:03pm
                            
                        In my opinion, as long as you made sure you bled the lines/pipes, you would be fine.justincredible;1608363 wrote:Not rhetorical, just throwing the idea out there for feedback. I'm certain it can be done, just not sure if it's a good idea or not.
                                        
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                                                                WebFire
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 2:54pm
                            
                        I have called OUPS for my private property. My lines got marked.SnotBubbles;1608332 wrote:No, they do not.
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                                                                WebFire
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 2:54pm
                            
                        Right. And they do private property.GoChiefs;1608348 wrote:OUPS is just a notification center. They don't do the actual line marking. They just contact the utility companies after you have called them.
                                        
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                                Apr 23, 2014 3:43pm
                            
                        
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                        mcburg93
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 5:08pm
                            
                        justincredible;1608343 wrote:What if I just ran a line out of the back of our basement, not buried, and attach it to one of the posts of the deck instead of running it all the way to the back of the yard? I realize this could freeze, but couldn't I just put a valve on the inside of the basement and turn the water off to the outside and then drain the line before cold weather hits?
If you plan on moving sometime in the future this might be your best bet so you dont invest a bunch of money in an outside spigot. You can still do the one on the house relatively easy with out much costs. If I had to guess you might have 100 in materials if you do the work yourself.
1_beast
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 8:34pm
                            
                        
                                After decoding the picture, I noticed that you would need to bust out your sidewalk prior to trenching. 
Also, the deck isnt picture in your...umm, blueprint so I couldnt analyze that.
Hope this helps.
(I also didnt see porch/porch furniture.)
                        Also, the deck isnt picture in your...umm, blueprint so I couldnt analyze that.
Hope this helps.
(I also didnt see porch/porch furniture.)
justincredible
                                                                            
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                                Apr 23, 2014 10:45pm
                            
                        Not that it matters any more since I am likely not going with my original plan but I wouldn't have to go under the sidewalk to do it.1_beast;1608458 wrote:After decoding the picture, I noticed that you would need to bust out your sidewalk prior to trenching.
Also, the deck isnt picture in your...umm, blueprint so I couldnt analyze that.
Hope this helps.
(I also didnt see porch/porch furniture.)