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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 31, 2009 3:47pm
Wow, you seriously have issues. Get off the HATE wagon you "supposed fan".thedynasty1998 wrote: Way to contribute today Diebler!
Buford wasn't any better, forcing shots left and right while missing a number of EASY shots, layups. Why nothing about him? He has been the worst of anyone today.
Diebler is what he is, a spot up shooter, and without Turner, he isn't going to be near as effective and either has been, or will Buford!!
Get over your mancrush on Deibler!!!
osu45804
Posts: 6,188
Dec 31, 2009 3:51pm
A VERY poor outing today
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 31, 2009 3:59pm
This game wasn't all that different than the Butler game. OSU offense goes for long stretches without scoring. They have no one to break down a defense, to create anything, create openings for otheres or anyone able to get a shot as the shot clock winds down. They are very one dimensional right now. Our only prayer is for Turner to get back VERY soon!
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 31, 2009 4:05pm
What?centralbucksfan wrote:
Buford had 8 turnovers at half
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 31, 2009 4:08pm
Tough to understand?Mulva wrote:What?centralbucksfan wrote:
Buford had 8 turnovers at half
Yes, 8 turnovers in first half. I won't put all on him, as no one played well. It is what it is without Turner and I don't see it getting much better without him. OSU is too easy to defend right now.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Dec 31, 2009 4:09pm
He had 2 turnovers in the game, so yes, sort of difficult to understand.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 31, 2009 4:14pm
Yeah, i didnt see 8. He may have been involved in 8 of them, but they werent necessarily his fault (or charged to him).Mulva wrote: He had 2 turnovers in the game, so yes, sort of difficult to understand.
Either way. OSU looked pretty bad. Only second game Ive seen without Turner. Just too much standing around on offense. But even with Turner out, that was tough to watch. Only getting 43 points in a basketball game is pretty unacceptable, regardless of the conditions.
They have a rough stretch to open the season, but should get the win at home over IU. If they can manage a road game and start 2-3 they should be ok (if the Turner back sooner than expected news is true)
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Dec 31, 2009 4:15pm
Thats interesting. They showed that stat on TV......any, looking at stats on net, it does say only two. Guess they showed something wrong. But Buford still wasn't good forcing way too much, and missing some easy baskets. Just hope he isn't hurt seriously or it could get uglier! Anyway, no matter how you look at it, it wasn't good for anyone. Not much good came out of this game.Mulva wrote: He had 2 turnovers in the game, so yes, sort of difficult to understand.
Laley, hate to say I told you, but I did.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 31, 2009 4:15pm
You are correct. CBF misread the halftime grahic.Buford had 14 and 8 with 2 turnovers.He had 2 turnovers in the game, so yes, sort of difficult to understand.
Boxscore-http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200912310657
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Dec 31, 2009 4:39pm
I do have issues. Issues with Diebler. He makes me sick to watch.centralbucksfan wrote:Wow, you seriously have issues. Get off the HATE wagon you "supposed fan".thedynasty1998 wrote: Way to contribute today Diebler!
Buford wasn't any better, forcing shots left and right while missing a number of EASY shots, layups. Why nothing about him? He has been the worst of anyone today.
Diebler is what he is, a spot up shooter, and without Turner, he isn't going to be near as effective and either has been, or will Buford!!
Get over your mancrush on Deibler!!!
He's supposed to be a scorer. If he's not shooting the ball, he's worthless out there. He doesn't rebound or defend. He doesn't set anyone up. All he does is swing the ball around the permiter.
When your best scorer goes down, someone has to step up. Lighty has. Buford has. Diebler disappeared. And I don't want to hear the crap about him needing someone to set him up to get him open looks. Create something for yourself. Get a rebound. Make an assist. DO SOMETHING TO CONTRIBUTE!
As for Buford, he had 2 TO's like was stated above. Not really sure what game you were watching. He has stepped up. Sure he missed some shots, but at least he's taking them and trying to make things happen.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Dec 31, 2009 6:13pm
Diebler was a volume shooter in high school which is why he scored a ton of points. Don't even try to dispute that fact.
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Citybuck
Posts: 269
Dec 31, 2009 6:21pm
There's always OSU womens b-ball and OSU wrestling...This team looks like they are completly lost without Turner.
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jt_13
Posts: 48
Dec 31, 2009 6:40pm
Don't everybody jump off the lefge all at once. The Bucks should get Turner back in 3-4 weeks, and can finish the regular season with 19-21 wins. That will be plenty enough to get them into the Dance.
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Don Provolone
Posts: 23
Dec 31, 2009 6:40pm
This is the third season I have endured - watching and hoping for improvement in Jon Diebler. The improvement hasn't been great. He's looked fine against the lesser teams we've played. His defense has always been suspect. While Turner certainly makes Jon better, I still would have expected better play and contributions from a player who eats up 40 minutes every game. He must be lights out in practice and all hope he can transfer that to his game. I don't know what else to think. The Bucks looked very non-funtional today.
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mallymal614
Posts: 3,746
Dec 31, 2009 7:02pm
After Turner got injured, I said on another thread that it would for me to watch the buckeyes without him. So far I haven’t watched an OSU game in its entirety since the injury. With Evan, the Bucks are a big ten contender. Without him, they might be somewhere in the middle of the pack. But hey, injuries are a part of the game. Hopefully we can sneak out a few games before his return.
newarkcatholicfan
Posts: 3,199
Dec 31, 2009 7:34pm
The Buckeyes without Turner are horrible with Turner they are overrated.
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Dec 31, 2009 8:05pm
43 points?
I buy the Evan Turner excuse for the loss, but that will never be an acceptable reason to lose by 22.
I buy the Evan Turner excuse for the loss, but that will never be an acceptable reason to lose by 22.
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Big Gain
Posts: 2,073
Jan 1, 2010 2:09am
I wonder why Matta plays Diebler 40 minutes a game when a much more knowledgeable coach like you wouldn't??Don Provolone wrote: This is the third season I have endured - watching and hoping for improvement in Jon Diebler. The improvement hasn't been great. He's looked fine against the lesser teams we've played. His defense has always been suspect. While Turner certainly makes Jon better, I still would have expected better play and contributions from a player who eats up 40 minutes every game. He must be lights out in practice and all hope he can transfer that to his game. I don't know what else to think. The Bucks looked very non-funtional today.
thedynasty1998
Posts: 6,844
Jan 1, 2010 9:37am
I've always wondered that too...
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Don Provolone
Posts: 23
Jan 1, 2010 10:00am
Big Gain - I understand your frustration. Try checking the box score and see what the stats indicate about a person who plays 40 minutes per game. The answer is not much, so there must be another, deeper reason. Perhaps Diebler is the heart and soul of the team? Perhaps he is the respeceted team leader? Perhaps he does the little things that don't show up in the stats? Perhaps he is the defensive stopper? Perhaps he is tireless and doesn't run out of energy? Perhaps he is great in practice and everyone is waiting for that to show in a game? Perhaps the bench is so thin that no-one else can do what he does? Perhaps there are other reasons that we aren't smart enough to discuss. Please let me know what you think - your valuable knowledge and insight is needed here in this discussion.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 1, 2010 12:12pm
Diebler a defensive stopper L O L
CinciX12
Posts: 2,874
Jan 2, 2010 12:37pm
I'm not sure what Jon has ever done for you to give him that much credit honestly?Don Provolone wrote: Big Gain - I understand your frustration. Try checking the box score and see what the stats indicate about a person who plays 40 minutes per game. The answer is not much, so there must be another, deeper reason. Perhaps Diebler is the heart and soul of the team? Perhaps he is the respeceted team leader? Perhaps he does the little things that don't show up in the stats? Perhaps he is the defensive stopper? Perhaps he is tireless and doesn't run out of energy? Perhaps he is great in practice and everyone is waiting for that to show in a game? Perhaps the bench is so thin that no-one else can do what he does? Perhaps there are other reasons that we aren't smart enough to discuss. Please let me know what you think - your valuable knowledge and insight is needed here in this discussion.
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Don Provolone
Posts: 23
Jan 3, 2010 6:41pm
^^^^CinciX - I was being sarcastic and somewhat flippant in my comment.