Nelson Mandela Passes Away at 95

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Dec 5, 2013 4:54 PM
Cue the Morgan Freeman movie.
Dec 5, 2013 4:54pm
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Dec 5, 2013 5:14 PM
oh, he wasn't dead before?
Dec 5, 2013 5:14pm
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Dec 5, 2013 5:24 PM
Mohican00;1548436 wrote:oh, he wasn't dead before?
My thought too
Dec 5, 2013 5:24pm
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Dec 5, 2013 5:53 PM
Tiernan;1548422 wrote:Cue the Morgan Freeman movie.
Ummm....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2304771/
Dec 5, 2013 5:53pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:17 PM
RIP to a Great Human Being
Dec 5, 2013 6:17pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:25 PM
pmoney25;1548461 wrote:RIP to a Great Human Being
Aside from the terrorism.
Dec 5, 2013 6:25pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:36 PM
Mulva;1548464 wrote:Aside from the terrorism.
Yeah lol people forget he lead the bombing of over 50 targets
Dec 5, 2013 6:36pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:42 PM
Nelson Mandela is a great reminder of how powerful and meaningful sports can be. Im sure his last words on his death bed was "go fuck yourself band wagoners."
Dec 5, 2013 6:42pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:46 PM
Wow great point on bandwagoning and why sports are a uniting force. Nelson fucking Mendella. I'll be sure to use his name to pwn bandwagoners and whiny girls alike who QQ about why I think bandwagoning is a joke and I like sports. Uniting Force.
Dec 5, 2013 6:46pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:50 PM
Commander of Awesome;1548476 wrote:Wow great point on bandwagoning and why sports are a uniting force. Nelson fucking Mendella. I'll be sure to use his name to pwn bandwagoners and whiny girls alike who QQ about why I think bandwagoning is a joke and I like sports. Uniting Force.
Imagine if Mandela rooted for New Zealand during the world cup. LOL.
Dec 5, 2013 6:50pm
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Dec 5, 2013 6:53 PM
This should probably go to the politics board, but I think most can agree Mandela was a champion for human rights. South Africa is a work in progress, and perhaps at times (and now) it has issues, particularly with crime...but that is an issue for future leaders.
Dec 5, 2013 6:53pm
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Dec 5, 2013 7:08 PM
RIP
Dec 5, 2013 7:08pm
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God I hate our society.
Dec 5, 2013 7:08pm
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Dec 5, 2013 7:17 PM
Mulva;1548464 wrote:Aside from the terrorism.
I am aware of the "terrorist" claims.
Dec 5, 2013 7:17pm
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Dec 5, 2013 7:26 PM
pmoney25;1548497 wrote:I am aware of the "terrorist" claims.
Mandela was not Gandhi and didn't always disapprove of violent tactics. In addition his wife Winnie (I believe they are still married, but separated) has a long criminal history. That isn't necessarily terrorism, but South Africa has a checkered background even post-apartheid, and the Mandela's profited heavily in a country that is very, very poor in most areas.
Dec 5, 2013 7:26pm
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Dec 5, 2013 7:32 PM
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That's hot :p
Dec 5, 2013 7:32pm
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Dec 5, 2013 7:36 PM
Manhattan Buckeye;1548500 wrote:Mandela was not Gandhi and didn't always disapprove of violent tactics. In addition his wife Winnie (I believe they are still married, but separated) has a long criminal history. That isn't necessarily terrorism, but South Africa has a checkered background even post-apartheid, and the Mandela's profited heavily in a country that is very, very poor in most areas.
I agree. I don't think of him as a Saint and don't agree with him politically but I do think he stood for freedom and human rights when it would have been easier to not do so.

If you look back at many great historical figures in our own country, you will find deep flaws. Hell our country was founded by men who owned other human beings as slaves.
Dec 5, 2013 7:36pm
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Dec 5, 2013 8:07 PM
pmoney25;1548510 wrote:I agree. I don't think of him as a Saint and don't agree with him politically but I do think he stood for freedom and human rights when it would have been easier to not do so.

If you look back at many great historical figures in our own country, you will find deep flaws. Hell our country was founded by men who owned other human beings as slaves.
What flaws does MLK have though? He might be the ultimate great guy really, just unreal the change he was able to make
Dec 5, 2013 8:07pm
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Dec 5, 2013 8:22 PM
Hakunah Matata
Dec 5, 2013 8:22pm
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Dec 5, 2013 8:34 PM
Let's just pretend he never killed anybody.
Dec 5, 2013 8:34pm
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Dec 6, 2013 7:10 PM
He wasn't a non-violent saint and he never claimed to be. He led the armed group within the resistence because they had been outlawed from any peaceful resistence. If a small minority holds the majority to apathied level law, the majority is reasonable to consider itself desperate and at war. Additionally, he moderated his view on using violence when the situation evolved and he was older (and probably wiser). The acts of his original group, which mainly ttok place while he was imprisoned perhaps hastened the fall of the apatheid regime.

People are contradictions. But to use the sports radio analogy, I'll judge Mandela by his "body of work".
Dec 6, 2013 7:10pm
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Dec 10, 2013 11:25 AM
Psst......our Founding Fathers were terrorists too. Shhhhh don't tell anybody.

Oh and don't forget millions of Americans from the "Confederacy" who were also terrorists but have freaking statues built for them and places named after them in the country they betrayed and attacked.
Dec 10, 2013 11:25am
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Dec 10, 2013 11:33 AM
Obama stop to pay back citizenship taxes to Kenya ... also
Dec 10, 2013 11:33am