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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Nov 20, 2013 10:39am
I know how we all hope that ends, but most of the videos of this I have seen are total sucker punches. No way having a gun would help when you don't even see the person hitting you.Raw Dawgin' it;1539416 wrote:Or a guy with a gun.
They should charge these people with attempted murder. You could easily kill someone like that, most likely from them hitting their head on the fall.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 20, 2013 2:58pm
If you don't get knocked out and are able to stand up, it could make a difference.Zoltan;1539540 wrote:I know how we all hope that ends, but most of the videos of this I have seen are total sucker punches. No way having a gun would help when you don't even see the person hitting you.
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Nov 20, 2013 3:04pm
People already have died from it. Not so much the punch, but slamming their head on the ground when they fall unconscious.Zoltan;1539540 wrote:I know how we all hope that ends, but most of the videos of this I have seen are total sucker punches. No way having a gun would help when you don't even see the person hitting you.
They should charge these people with attempted murder. You could easily kill someone like that, most likely from them hitting their head on the fall.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2013 3:14pm
That, and there should be some sort of charge or aggravated degree for ganging up on a single person.Zoltan;1539540 wrote: They should charge these people with attempted murder.
But I'm sure cracking down on this behavior with harsh sentences would be viewed as racist.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Nov 20, 2013 3:57pm
Enough of them get shot, this will go away.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 20, 2013 4:03pm
If they're not "attempting" to murder someone, I don't think attempted murder should be on the table.
However, I don't think there would be a problem with stiffer penalties for unprovoked attacks.
However, I don't think there would be a problem with stiffer penalties for unprovoked attacks.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Nov 20, 2013 4:08pm
I always assumed the beating would continue if you weren't out cold from the first shot, but I would pay money to see a person stand back up and open fire just mowing the the entire group down.O-Trap;1539869 wrote:If you don't get knocked out and are able to stand up, it could make a difference.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 20, 2013 4:50pm
Yeah, it's a can of worms. But attaching "hate crime" to assault might actually carry stiffer penalties.O-Trap;1539904 wrote:If they're not "attempting" to murder someone, I don't think attempted murder should be on the table.
Anyway, with all the press coverage I'm afraid this "game" is going to explode nationwide.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 20, 2013 7:06pm
I was fearing the same. I've begun watching my surroundings around my house.gut;1539927 wrote:Yeah, it's a can of worms. But attaching "hate crime" to assault might actually carry stiffer penalties.
Anyway, with all the press coverage I'm afraid this "game" is going to explode nationwide.
#1DBag
Posts: 786
Nov 20, 2013 11:05pm
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hang_loose
Posts: 802
Nov 21, 2013 5:52am
#1DBag..... Thanks for posting that video. I've watched it twice & maybe again later on today. I don't agree with everything this man says but I love his passion for people.#1DBag;1540118 wrote:[video=youtube_share;Eo_FYVwIeaY][/video]
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Nov 21, 2013 8:58am
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 21, 2013 9:47am
The second link is the area I live in. Smh.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 21, 2013 10:04am
Oh come don't make this about race. There was a white kid in one of those videos too!
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sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 21, 2013 10:06am
Honestly surprised it didn't start in DC given how many you know who's we have here. DC might have the dumbest population in America.like_that;1540243 wrote:The second link is the area I live in. Smh.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 21, 2013 10:48am
Actually I think DC was voted one of the smartest cities in then world (or maybe it was country).sleeper;1540271 wrote:Honestly surprised it didn't start in DC given how many you know who's we have here. DC might have the dumbest population in America.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Nov 21, 2013 11:03am
Last time I played knockout it was shooting clays at a bachelor party. Started around noon and lasted until well after dark as a buddy had tower lights set up. An ammo run was needed over dinner time. I stopped playing about that time becuase something about 5-10 drunk guys shooting clays in close proximatey of one another didnt seem too safe.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 21, 2013 11:17am
They must have left out the East side then.like_that;1540319 wrote:Actually I think DC was voted one of the smartest cities in then world (or maybe it was country).
Also, I think you are thinking of Bethesda.
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 21, 2013 11:28am
Well, it was bound to happen.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 21, 2013 11:38am
^^^He only got a year. DA's are going to have to scour the law to find a way to dish out stiffer charges/penalties on these idiots.
It seems like you could probably make an argument for felony assault, perhaps in multiple ways, when dealing with a group attacking a single individual (even if it's just 1 member of the group committing the act).
Felony assault carries much more serious penalties. And there's plenty of discretion, even within the felony assault sentencing, to not be overly concerned with juries/lawyers being unfair.
It seems like you could probably make an argument for felony assault, perhaps in multiple ways, when dealing with a group attacking a single individual (even if it's just 1 member of the group committing the act).
Felony assault carries much more serious penalties. And there's plenty of discretion, even within the felony assault sentencing, to not be overly concerned with juries/lawyers being unfair.
rmolin73
Posts: 4,278
Nov 21, 2013 11:38am
When have I ever said this wasn't about race? You have to come better than that.sleeper;1540268 wrote:Oh come don't make this about race. There was a white kid in one of those videos too!
/Rmolin'd
O-Trap
Posts: 14,994
Nov 21, 2013 11:42am
How difficult might it be to prove beyond reasonable doubt that other friends were in on the actual attack?gut;1540388 wrote:^^^He only got a year. DA's are going to have to scour the law to find a way to dish out stiffer charges/penalties on these idiots.
It seems like you could probably make an argument for felony assault, perhaps in multiple ways, when dealing with a group attacking a single individual (even if it's just 1 member of the group committing the act).
Felony assault carries much more serious penalties. And there's plenty of discretion, even within the felony assault sentencing, to not be overly concerned with juries/lawyers being unfair.
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gut
Posts: 15,058
Nov 21, 2013 12:11pm
I don't think it matters. If you have witnesses or visual evidence he had a group backing him up, whether they were directly involved or not, I think a case can be made for felonious assault on multiple levels.O-Trap;1540400 wrote:How difficult might it be to prove beyond reasonable doubt that other friends were in on the actual attack?
The threat and potential for harm matters. And from the perspective of the victim, if one guy approaches to attack you with several friends who could jump in. To me that's pretty similar to assault with a deadly weapon because this is a fight you can't win, so you can't really defend yourself. Potentially facing 3 or more guys might as well be the same as a guy pointing a gun in your face - trying to defend yourself could very likely result in death.
In such a case, I think the jury should have the option to consider felony assault.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 21, 2013 12:51pm
Should've put a few in his head to make sure the "game" ended for him.O-Trap;1540374 wrote:Well, it was bound to happen.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
Nov 21, 2013 12:59pm
Bas Rutten put this on his facebook today:
These guys are the biggest losers I have ever seen, and I have seen a lot of them. Sucker punching people (who they don't know) and when they don't expect it (for when you don't know what "sucker punch" means).
Women, older man, hitting them from the back, NO cojones whatsoever to attack a tough guy and another thing, they are always in groups, the "hero's".... because God forbid somebody doesn't go down and fights back, they need all the help they can get since they have, once again, ZERO cojones.
How you think they would feel when you knock their mother or father out? Brain injuries, headaches, neck injuries, you name it, even death as you can hear in the video
When you know losers like this please tell them to stop this dumb behavior and when they DO actually have a pair of pelota's (which they don't) they can come to my gym, El Guapo has a plethora of guys, even girls they can fight.