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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 13, 2013 9:50pm
Johnny football. The guy is amazing. Teddy and Mariota's numbers don't come remotely close to Manziel. In addition, the ability to scramble and run is huge. Just ask Seattle Seahawk fans.
The guy will be a Fran Tarkenton clone...and smash records like frantic Fran did.
He's the only q'back the Browns should consider drafting.
The guy will be a Fran Tarkenton clone...and smash records like frantic Fran did.
He's the only q'back the Browns should consider drafting.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 13, 2013 9:54pm
He's too small and he makes way too many mistakes, won't be able to make plays like throwing it in the air to Mike Evans in the NFL. He will be hurt every other week.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Nov 13, 2013 9:59pm
Lolololololol
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 13, 2013 10:11pm
Well now that footwedge has said it, we know all we need to know.
Dont touch Johnny football with a 10 ft pole.
Dont touch Johnny football with a 10 ft pole.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 13, 2013 10:19pm
Shut up footwedge
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Nov 13, 2013 10:21pm
for a mid-round pick, I really like Keith Wenning from Ball St.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Nov 13, 2013 10:28pm
He's just as big as Russell Wilson....and a good bit better than Wilson in every facet. Fran Tarkenton was 175 lbs. How'd he end up? Manziel...73% completion percentage....and tore Alabama a new asshole 2 straight years.robj55;1535283 wrote:He's too small and he makes way too many mistakes, won't be able to make plays like throwing it in the air to Mike Evans in the NFL. He will be hurt every other week.
Compare those numbers with Mariota...(61% completion rate) and Bridgewater around 67%. No comparison.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
Nov 13, 2013 10:45pm
Russell Wilson is more accurate and has way better intangibles. Wilson has character off the charts and Manziel is getting thrown out of Manning camp for being hungover, his character flaws are enough to stray away from him. Vick can't stay healthy and neither will Manziel be able to. He is nicked up almost every game in college. Also, some of the plays he makes are amazing but also extremely lucky.Footwedge;1535311 wrote:He's just as big as Russell Wilson....and a good bit better than Wilson in every facet. Fran Tarkenton was 175 lbs. How'd he end up? Manziel...73% completion percentage....and tore Alabama a new asshole 2 straight years.
Compare those numbers with Mariota...(61% completion rate) and Bridgewater around 67%. No comparison.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 13, 2013 10:48pm
Intelligence typically wins out in the NFL over athletic ability. I don't trust Manziel to be able to read defenses and survive being hit by NFL defenses.Footwedge;1535311 wrote:He's just as big as Russell Wilson....and a good bit better than Wilson in every facet. Fran Tarkenton was 175 lbs. How'd he end up? Manziel...73% completion percentage....and tore Alabama a new asshole 2 straight years.
Compare those numbers with Mariota...(61% completion rate) and Bridgewater around 67%. No comparison.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 13, 2013 11:08pm
I'd draft Manziel...
in the 7th round.
in the 7th round.
believer
Posts: 8,153
Nov 14, 2013 5:14am
Manziel will get drafted...and fade into obscurity as he rides the bench as a back-up for a real NFL QB.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 14, 2013 7:29am
lol
Scarlet_Buckeye
Posts: 5,264
Nov 14, 2013 9:58am
IMO, there's no QBs worth drafting this year. To me, they ALL have major flaws.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Nov 14, 2013 10:04am
Considering that players are a lot larger and stronger and faster than they were in the 70s, I'm not sure what the Tarkenton reference was supposed to accomplish. A lot of great players from that era who would be dismal flops today if they were just dropped into the NFL without access to today's training/weight-lifting/etc. techniques.Footwedge;1535311 wrote:He's just as big as Russell Wilson....and a good bit better than Wilson in every facet. Fran Tarkenton was 175 lbs. How'd he end up? Manziel...73% completion percentage....and tore Alabama a new asshole 2 straight years.
Compare those numbers with Mariota...(61% completion rate) and Bridgewater around 67%. No comparison.
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gport_tennis
Posts: 1,796
Nov 14, 2013 11:06am
Johnny football and teddy Bridgewater will be very good NFL qb's imo
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 14, 2013 11:08am
Sounds like you haven't watch Johnny Football at this all year then. His accuracy has been great, at the very worst it's very close to Russell's during his JR year @ NCSU and his SR year @ Wisco. He's suffered the past 2 or 3 weeks because of his injuries. Before them, he was pretty spectacular with the delivery and ball placement of his throws.robj55;1535324 wrote:Russell Wilson is more accurate
I'm not advocating him to the Browns though, because of his recklessness. If he can cut down on that, I'm sold.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 14, 2013 11:25am
If this happens, I become a Packers fan immediatelylhslep134;1535484 wrote:
I'm not advocating him to the Browns though, because of his recklessness. If he can cut down on that, I'm sold.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Nov 14, 2013 11:41am
Weren't you done after the Trent trade?vball10set;1535495 wrote:If this happens, I become a Packers fan immediately
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 14, 2013 12:32pm
:RpS_blushing:SportsAndLady;1535505 wrote:Weren't you done after the Trent trade?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Nov 14, 2013 1:31pm
Is that because you hate Manziel the person or Manziel the QB? If it's Manziel the person, then I understand.vball10set;1535495 wrote:If this happens, I become a Packers fan immediately
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 14, 2013 2:06pm
lhslep134;1535558 wrote:Is that because you hate Manziel the person or Manziel the QB? If it's Manziel the person, then I understand.
Guilty as charged. I also didn't like Braylon Edwards the person, but I still rooted for the Brownies--so don't take my threat too literally.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Nov 14, 2013 3:10pm
Footwedge loves Johnny Football as much as I do. Oh no.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Nov 14, 2013 3:27pm
I've watched a couple A&M games, and it just seems like Manziel gets bailed out a lot by his legs and Mike Evans. He uses that toss it up and let Evans get it play quite often, just like Denard did at Michigan. Also, Braxton Miller is completing 73% of his passes this year, is he a first rounder?
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Nov 14, 2013 3:38pm
se-alum;1535638 wrote: Also, Braxton Miller is completing 73% of his passes this year, is he a first rounder?
Prolly not, but only because of the perception of OSU QB's due to the players drafted in the past. I'd like to see him taken in the 3-5 rounds and make those taken above him look silly.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 14, 2013 3:39pm
I'm not sure Miller has a future in the NFL, but I'll be pulling for him. He still has a year to get better, so we shall see.