lhslep134
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Oct 23, 2013 1:24pm
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FWIW, I'll watch anyone over Weeden after he threw, for a SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK, an underhanded pass.
FWIW, I'll watch anyone over Weeden after he threw, for a SECOND STRAIGHT WEEK, an underhanded pass.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2013 1:34pm
Chiefs defense is nasty and arrowhead is wild.
This is going to be a massacre. Probably the biggest spread again in Vegas. Second straight week. Go Cleveland.
This is going to be a massacre. Probably the biggest spread again in Vegas. Second straight week. Go Cleveland.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 23, 2013 1:36pm
Is Campbell even somewhat mobile anymore? KC's front 7 is scary.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 23, 2013 1:42pm
KC's offense actually doesn't scare me. We keep Charles in check I think it'll be a closer game than most think. Our def has sucked ass the last few weeks though, time for them to step up.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 23, 2013 1:47pm
What really happened with Campbell's career since he was at Washington?
I remember when he was there, he was looked at as a decent guy with potential, but he never really evolved and just sort of settled in at mediocre. But then when Washington went in a different direction and he left, he just fell off the map completely to where he seemed to completely suck. I haven't really heard anyone say anything better about him than "he can't be worse than Weeden", so did his skills just diminish all of a sudden or what happened?
I remember when he was there, he was looked at as a decent guy with potential, but he never really evolved and just sort of settled in at mediocre. But then when Washington went in a different direction and he left, he just fell off the map completely to where he seemed to completely suck. I haven't really heard anyone say anything better about him than "he can't be worse than Weeden", so did his skills just diminish all of a sudden or what happened?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2013 1:50pm
He honestly may be worse than weeden from what I remember seeing last year in Chicago from him. It was that bad.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 23, 2013 1:56pm
He went to the black hole mess that is the Raiders. He was never great in Washington, but he could manage a game. Was around 63% completion percentage as a starter. I don't care much about last year, since it's not like he had a big sample size, though he did complete 63% of his passes in his limited time. I don't expect him to be great by any means, but I don't think he's near as bad as Weeden.Heretic;1522545 wrote:What really happened with Campbell's career since he was at Washington?
I remember when he was there, he was looked at as a decent guy with potential, but he never really evolved and just sort of settled in at mediocre. But then when Washington went in a different direction and he left, he just fell off the map completely to where he seemed to completely suck. I haven't really heard anyone say anything better about him than "he can't be worse than Weeden", so did his skills just diminish all of a sudden or what happened?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2013 1:57pm
He was actually looking for for the Raiders 2 seasons ago, before the Browns injured him for the year, which led to the fucking Carson Palmer trade.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 23, 2013 1:58pm
Thanks. It was just weird seeing a guy who'd been a tolerable, if not particularly good, starter suddenly become that guy where it seemed things must have really gone wrong for him to get on the field. And I remember he was kind of like that with Chicago and definitely like that now.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Oct 23, 2013 3:31pm
He also had a different OC pretty much every year. Never really got a chance to develop within a system.
Midstate01
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Oct 23, 2013 3:33pm
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 23, 2013 3:39pm
Dang...Rob Rang has Pittsburgh drafting a QB at #8.Midstate01;1522623 wrote:http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock-draft
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 23, 2013 3:41pm
I think the steelers have more pressing needs than a QB at that spot.BR1986FB;1522624 wrote:Dang...Rob Rang has Pittsburgh drafting a QB at #8.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 23, 2013 3:44pm
Not a fan of Mettenberger, at all.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2013 3:45pm
Any mock that has the browns taking a RB in the first round loses all credibility.
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Oct 23, 2013 3:48pm
I skimmed the draft, noticed that one dude's name is "Ha Ha Clinton-Dix", started laughing, then figured he must be an inspirational story because anyone who was conceived by parents who were at least on meth when he was born who is looking like first round material must have worked his ass off against insurmountable odds to have risen that high.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 23, 2013 3:58pm
I don't know, if it's that late in the 1st they could take one, depending on what they can add if FA. I would prefer them hold off and maybe take Hyde w/ their 2nd round pick.like_that;1522629 wrote:Any mock that has the browns taking a RB in the first round loses all credibility.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Oct 23, 2013 4:00pm
There will be plenty of RB talent in the second and third (two picks) rounds. Fuck that shit. Banner didn't trade their former reach of a first round pick to draft another first round RB. I don't think banner has ever drafted a RB in the first round. I wouldn't count on it.se-alum;1522634 wrote:I don't know, if it's that late in the 1st they could take one, depending on what they can add if FA. I would prefer them hold off and maybe take Hyde w/ their 2nd round pick.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 23, 2013 4:27pm
Yea, I don't expect it, just don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. Swapping out Richardson for a younger, cheaper, and probably better RB isn't a terrible move. I mean, I'm sure anyone they draft can average 2.5yds/carry. A lot is going to happen between then and now, so it's impossible to even take an educated guess at what they will do.like_that;1522635 wrote:There will be plenty of RB talent in the second and third (two picks) rounds. Fuck that shit. Banner didn't trade their former reach of a first round pick to draft another first round RB. I don't think banner has ever drafted a RB in the first round. I wouldn't count on it.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Oct 23, 2013 4:32pm
They also may think Dion Lewis will be their back next year, and not take a RB till rounds 4 or 5.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Oct 23, 2013 4:56pm
Dion will be their back next year. Because he's pretty good and can catch out of the backfield. and that's what you need in a RBse-alum;1522654 wrote:They also may think Dion Lewis will be their back next year, and not take a RB till rounds 4 or 5.
Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Oct 23, 2013 9:42pm
Arrowhead is killer for sure.
Browns lose by 14+ or knock off the unbeaten.
Browns 20
Chiefs 13
Browns lose by 14+ or knock off the unbeaten.
Browns 20
Chiefs 13
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Oct 24, 2013 9:57am
The only good news this week is that I have KC defense in fantasy...although that might be a better thing if Weeden was still playing.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Oct 24, 2013 10:02am
I don't think they will keep Charles in check. They might bottle him up on some running plays but he will break free for some swing passes and hurt the Browns receiving.Commander of Awesome;1522540 wrote:KC's offense actually doesn't scare me. We keep Charles in check I think it'll be a closer game than most think. Our def has sucked ass the last few weeks though, time for them to step up.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Oct 24, 2013 11:44am
I'm just wondering if Jamal Charles gets 200 or 300 yds. Could also see Alex Smith looking like a HoFer.
If the browns keep up the run def I could see us making Smiff beating us and I'm not sure he's capable. One of the few QBs that I'd rather have weeden over.
If the browns keep up the run def I could see us making Smiff beating us and I'm not sure he's capable. One of the few QBs that I'd rather have weeden over.