
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 24, 2014 3:51pm
That's why I said he obviously isn't good enough. If he were, you owe it to the seniors to put a guy on the court that can help.centralbucksfan;1571561 wrote:20 games in, it would be stupid to pull a redshirt at this point in time. The guy hasn't played a second against anyone. Now throw him into the wolves in middle of big ten play? That would be just stupid.
Bottom line is, if he were good enough, he would have been playing. He obviously isn't ready yet.
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Prescott
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Jan 24, 2014 6:23pm
Why waste a year of eligibility on a team with such a low ceiling? How good he is doesn't factor into the equation at this point in the season.se-alum;1571708 wrote:That's why I said he obviously isn't good enough. If he were, you owe it to the seniors to put a guy on the court that can help.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 25, 2014 2:59pm
I obviously hope he's not bad enough to be at OSU for 5 years.Prescott;1571805 wrote:Why waste a year of eligibility on a team with such a low ceiling? How good he is doesn't factor into the equation at this point in the season.

LJ
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Jan 25, 2014 3:03pm
Yeah I definitely hope he isn't as bad as someone like David Lighty.se-alum;1572046 wrote:I obviously hope he's not bad enough to be at OSU for 5 years.
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mward31
Posts: 21
Jan 25, 2014 4:57pm
This is from Bob Baptist (OSU beat writer) concerning Kameron Williams: "Williams, a scoring guard from Baltimore, missed about the first month of full-squad practices after contracting mononucleosis and, after he was cleared to resume play, had to regain weight and strength."
Matta does not redshirt players unless illness or injury (Lighty) is involved. The last Ohio State Freshman to redshirt (under Coach O'Brien) in 2000-1 was Matt Marinichick.
Not saying Kam would have been in the regular rotation if he had been completely healthy this fall, but I think he would have been given a chance. I just don't think it's fair to say he is being redshirted because 'he isn't very good.' That may be the case, but if he wouldn't have contracted mono and gotten so far behind with conditioning, at the very least us Buckeye fans would have seen him play in garbage time. Let's not judge the kid until we see him play.
Matta does not redshirt players unless illness or injury (Lighty) is involved. The last Ohio State Freshman to redshirt (under Coach O'Brien) in 2000-1 was Matt Marinichick.
Not saying Kam would have been in the regular rotation if he had been completely healthy this fall, but I think he would have been given a chance. I just don't think it's fair to say he is being redshirted because 'he isn't very good.' That may be the case, but if he wouldn't have contracted mono and gotten so far behind with conditioning, at the very least us Buckeye fans would have seen him play in garbage time. Let's not judge the kid until we see him play.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 25, 2014 7:29pm
Me too, I hope he is much better.LJ;1572048 wrote:Yeah I definitely hope he isn't as bad as someone like David Lighty.
Also, they burned Q's redshirt for 9 games his Freshmen year. If Kam was good enough, he'd be out there.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 26, 2014 2:01pm
Lighty is awesome. I remember after the MSU game where Evan Turner went off while having the flu he came over to our group and chilled out and talked to us a bit about the game and took a pic. I know cool story broLJ;1572048 wrote:Yeah I definitely hope he isn't as bad as someone like David Lighty.

se-alum
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Jan 29, 2014 7:23pm
I know not many people like ADV, but I think he can be a really nice player for OSU. He's more athletic than Diebler was, just needs some experience.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 29, 2014 8:07pm
By his Sophomore year, Diebler was the best shooter in the conference. Hard to think Della Valle will ever be close to the weapon Diebler was.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 29, 2014 8:19pm
Yea, I wouldn't expect him to be the shooter Diebler was. He has the skill set to be better all-around offensively though. He's not going to be a star, but can be a key component, imo.Azubuike24;1573973 wrote:By his Sophomore year, Diebler was the best shooter in the conference. Hard to think Della Valle will ever be close to the weapon Diebler was.

wildcats20
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Jan 29, 2014 8:41pm
Penn State ball, pretty clear. Also, that's not a foul.
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birddog23
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Jan 29, 2014 8:41pm
How so? The all around better offensively part.se-alum;1573977 wrote:Yea, I wouldn't expect him to be the shooter Diebler was. He has the skill set to be better all-around offensively though. He's not going to be a star, but can be a key component, imo.

wildcats20
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Jan 29, 2014 8:43pm
That's not a good call.

Azubuike24
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Jan 29, 2014 8:45pm
Also, go back and slow-mo that Craft "drive."
THREE giant steps after a dribble.
THREE giant steps after a dribble.

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 29, 2014 8:46pm
Another missed call.
That was a big time finish by Craft though.
That was a big time finish by Craft though.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 29, 2014 8:48pm
OSU gets a OOB call reversed (clearly off Craft).
Craft gets away with a blatant travel.
OSU goaltends on what would've been an and one and no call.
Amazing. 3 gifts from the refs in 15.2 seconds.
Craft gets away with a blatant travel.
OSU goaltends on what would've been an and one and no call.
Amazing. 3 gifts from the refs in 15.2 seconds.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 29, 2014 8:54pm
lolAzubuike24;1573994 wrote:OSU gets a OOB call reversed (clearly off Craft).
Craft gets away with a blatant travel.
OSU goaltends on what would've been an and one and no call.
Amazing. 3 gifts from the refs in 15.2 seconds.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 29, 2014 8:54pm
Shannon Fucking Scott has no business being on the court. Terrible defense to give up an open 3, then misses a 3 footer to win the game.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 29, 2014 8:55pm
Scott blows coverage on one end, then blows a bunny put back at the either...unbelievable

wildcats20
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Jan 29, 2014 8:55pm
He's 100% correct. But lol all you want.vball10set;1573996 wrote:lol
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vball10set
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Jan 29, 2014 8:55pm
wildcats20;1574000 wrote:He's 100% correct. But lol all you want.
Ok, lol

se-alum
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Jan 29, 2014 8:56pm
It's just funny to see a UK fan complaining about it.wildcats20;1574000 wrote:He's 100% correct. But lol all you want.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 29, 2014 8:57pm
Yeah, I'd like to hear which of those 3 calls weren't incorrect.
OSU is going to win if they can get a few stops. Penn State's offense is 3 players jacking up threes...
OSU is going to win if they can get a few stops. Penn State's offense is 3 players jacking up threes...

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 29, 2014 8:58pm
I call it like I see it when it doesn't involve my team. I don't really have a dog in this fight...
I don't expect OSU fans to want it to be this way, of course we all want our team to prevail.
I don't expect OSU fans to want it to be this way, of course we all want our team to prevail.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 29, 2014 9:03pm
So how do you call it when it does involve your team?Azubuike24;1574005 wrote:I call it like I see it when it doesn't involve my team. I don't really have a dog in this fight...
I don't expect OSU fans to want it to be this way, of course we all want our team to prevail.