Archive Ohio State Basketball Official Thread

SportsAndLady

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Mar 19, 2015 7:22pm

centralbucksfan;1714895 wrote:Yes sir! Good win! And lets give Matta a little credit for coaching and making in game adjustments! Nite ya all!

Going to bed, cbf?

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mhs95_06

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Mar 19, 2015 7:23pm

They forgot to count VCU's half of the double foul toward the double bonus for Russell! A lot easier to make the one of two they needed that way!

Automatik

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Mar 19, 2015 7:23pm

Surprised me.

se-alum

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Mar 19, 2015 9:18pm

Azubuike24;1714841 wrote:None, Liggins, Lamb, Miller and Harrelson. Point was more that he has developed some guys, who probably would've never gotten a shot.

Not to hijack the thread though, to want to can Matta is stupid. Sometimes it takes time to really learn your recruiting and development niche. Matta came out of the gates super strong in recruiting, but he's not doing that anymore. He needs time to find his niche.

He's also been burned by some unexpected one-and-dones, which projecting that kind of thing is a skill on its own.

He's had exactly 1 unexpected one-and-done with Mike Conley.

Automatik

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Mar 19, 2015 10:03pm

Koufas? Mullens?

se-alum

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Mar 19, 2015 10:11pm

Automatik;1714983 wrote:Koufas? Mullens?

Who expected 2 5* 7 foot McDonald's All-Americans to play more than one year?

Automatik

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Mar 19, 2015 10:25pm

They were expected to leave after a year?

wildcats20

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Mar 19, 2015 10:26pm

I think Koufas was semi-expected. BJ was a surprise, if memory serves me.

se-alum

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Mar 19, 2015 10:48pm

I guess I could be misremembering, but I don't remember anyone being surprised when Koufas and Mullens left.

Azubuike24

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Mar 19, 2015 10:52pm

Very, very few guys are expected to leave after 1 year. We're talking maybe 8-12 guys a year, depending on the strength of the class.

IMO, I think both B.J. Mullens and Daequan Cook were not absolute locks. They have also had some guys leave "early", like DeShaun Thomas and Laquinton Ross. Obviously both of those guys were huge busts.

Mulva

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Mar 19, 2015 10:54pm

Mullens was Rivals #1 recruit in 2008.

Terry_Tate

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Mar 19, 2015 11:09pm

Azubuike24;1715024 wrote:Very, very few guys are expected to leave after 1 year. We're talking maybe 8-12 guys a year, depending on the strength of the class.

IMO, I think both B.J. Mullens and Daequan Cook were not absolute locks. They have also had some guys leave "early", like DeShaun Thomas and Laquinton Ross. Obviously both of those guys were huge busts.

Deshaun Thomas was not a bust at all, let alone a huge bust. LQR didn't turn out as good as expected so that one is partially right.

gerb131

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Mar 19, 2015 11:09pm

Yhuge win. Gutty performance. Sam needs a big game Saturday. Have they announced times?

Azubuike24

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Mar 19, 2015 11:10pm

I'm talking pro bust. Meaning, why leave early? Neither even made the NBA. They were the opposite of busts in college, which is why it would've been nice to stay longer.

Terry_Tate

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Mar 19, 2015 11:15pm

Azubuike24;1715034 wrote:I'm talking pro bust. Meaning, why leave early? Neither even made the NBA. They were the opposite of busts in college, which is why it would've been nice to stay longer.

Ah, I thought you were talking college, I was like wtf? Lol. It was an extra year they could get paid something because they weren't making the NBA anyway. I'm still shocked Deshaun isn't on a roster though. The dude is a talented scorer, I'd figure he'd get a shot.

Automatik

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Mar 19, 2015 11:17pm

He plays for Barcelona. Not quite the NBA, but not bad way to make a living. I was also surprised when he couldn't crack a roster.

Azubuike24

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Mar 19, 2015 11:51pm

As maligned as he was, Ross would've been a major, major help on this year's team. He would've been another guy who could take over a game offensively in spurts and take it off Russell.

Cleveland Buck

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Mar 19, 2015 11:59pm

Ross would have been huge because he can shoot. Russell is the only Buckeye that has a reasonable chance to hit an open shot.

Midstate01

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Mar 20, 2015 12:02am

Yeah I'd go play in Barcelona. They pay your salary, house and car. I'd be OK with that.

ohiobucks1

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Mar 20, 2015 1:06am

5:15 Saturday.

Automatik

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Mar 20, 2015 9:18am

I have not watched one second of Arizona. 3 losses, and all were rather close. Do we have a shot? Russell goes for 40?

Azubuike24

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Mar 20, 2015 9:52am

3 losses to bad teams. I don't think it's impossible for OSU if a few guys play above their heads.

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slingshot4ever

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Mar 20, 2015 10:25am

All 3 losses on the road, beat the Zags in OT and Utah twice. Only game I remember watching was when UM went to Zona. Lost by 27. Combination of UM being that bad and Zona being pretty good.Shanno Scott would need to play out of his mind again, and Loving hopefully wakes up from his one month nap before tip on Saturday.

se-alum

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Mar 20, 2015 10:57am

Azubuike24;1715024 wrote:Very, very few guys are expected to leave after 1 year. We're talking maybe 8-12 guys a year, depending on the strength of the class.

IMO, I think both B.J. Mullens and Daequan Cook were not absolute locks. They have also had some guys leave "early", like DeShaun Thomas and Laquinton Ross. Obviously both of those guys were huge busts.

Maybe not absolute locks, but as a coach, you have to know it's a possibility when you're recruiting 5* guys. I like Matta, and think he's a pretty good coach, but it's troublesome that he hasn't really developed a player since Evan Turner. There's guys like Craft, Deshaun, Buford, Smith, Ross, McDonald, Scott, Thompson, Amir, and so far Loving that were/are basically the same player from Freshman year to the time they left/will leave. That's a lot of "contributors" that just haven't gotten better.

Automatik

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Mar 20, 2015 12:41pm

I got one bracket going and it's perfect...