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Dec 21, 2014 4:17 PM
Has Matta come out of it, even for a minute, all year?
Dec 21, 2014 4:17pm
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Dec 22, 2014 10:15 AM
Azubuike24;1688482 wrote:Has Matta come out of it, even for a minute, all year?
Not that I have seen. Different versions, some trapping, stuff like that. He is committed to it from what I know and have read.
Dec 22, 2014 10:15am
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Dec 22, 2014 11:59 AM
Some things I took away from the game. Russell has a way to go to be a lottery pick. He has struggled in the 3 games where we played actual D1 talent. He seems to press in those games, and his shot selection can be pretty poor. He seems to take a lot of shots where he doesn't take the time to actually set up and take the shot. No doubt he'll improve, and by the middle of the B1G season, he may very well look like a lottery pick. As we all knew, our bigs are going to be a huge problem all season. They don't have to be great, but they need to be able to make shots within 3-4 feet of the basket. I don't like the zone either. If we can play man with guys like LaQuinton Ross and Deshaun Thomas in the lineup, why can't we play it now?? Loving and Williams would struggle in it probably, but we know Scott and Thompson are above average man defenders, and I can't imagine guys like Russell, Tate, Bates-Diop, and Kam would be less than average. The zone obviously isn't going to work. Wisky will beat us by 25 if we try to zone them.
Dec 22, 2014 11:59am
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Dec 27, 2014 7:14 PM
Another fast start against a weaker opponent..now, let's not follow the familiar pattern of just jacking shots up, play lazy defense, thus allowing said weaker opponent back into the game. We need to play well as a tune up for the B1G season. GO BUCKS!!!
Dec 27, 2014 7:14pm
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Dec 27, 2014 7:49 PM
Still don't know what to think of this team. Once they get into the conference and gain experience they could be a tough out in march.
Dec 27, 2014 7:49pm
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Dec 30, 2014 1:23 PM
Iowa dismantling our terrible zone defense early.
Dec 30, 2014 1:23pm
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Dec 30, 2014 1:36 PM
OSU is just better with Scott on the bench and Russell running the point. Scott is terrible right now. And this zone is terrible. Iowa is carving it up. They let the ball at the high post (kills a zone) easily and are giving up offensive rebounds as well. Driving me crazy. Another slow start...what is with that. Maybe time to start others who are ready to play.
Dec 30, 2014 1:36pm
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Dec 30, 2014 1:42 PM
This team is soft and doesn't compete often enough. Iowa getting all the loose balls. This team lacks fight. Disappointing as hell.
Dec 30, 2014 1:42pm
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Dec 30, 2014 1:43 PM
centralbucksfan;1690691 wrote:OSU is just better with Scott on the bench and Russell running the point. Scott is terrible right now. And this zone is terrible. Iowa is carving it up. They let the ball at the high post (kills a zone) easily and are giving up offensive rebounds as well. Driving me crazy. Another slow start...what is with that. Maybe time to start others who are ready to play.
Basically just a shoot around for Iowa right now. OSU not able to contest any shots in this zone. Could they really be any worse playing man?
Dec 30, 2014 1:43pm
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Dec 30, 2014 1:50 PM
se-alum;1690693 wrote:Basically just a shoot around for Iowa right now. OSU not able to contest any shots in this zone. Could they really be any worse playing man?
Can't believe it would be any worse. Iowa getting wide open looks and as I mentioned, getting the ball to the middle of the zone. Which opens up the outside. At least in mm, you would make Iowa work for it a little bit. Just think the zone leads OSU to be lazy, no loose balls, no rebounding. I think Matta had right idea using zone. But its not working IMO. At least like to see them mix it up a little. But that's not going to happen. They are committed to it.
Dec 30, 2014 1:50pm
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Dec 30, 2014 2:49 PM
Wow..how frustrating is this team to watch? OSU giving themselves so many opportunities...and they just blow it. Yet another on the way..can they convert this time!? Its too bad they can't come out of the gate with the energy they are playing now. This would be a totally different game.
Dec 30, 2014 2:49pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:02 PM
Frustrating loss to say the least. This team comes out of the gate just flat, digs itself big deficit, fights back, not enough. Sound familiar? Scott sucked..yet again. He is giving OSU absolutely nothing right now. Teams can easily focus on Russell. Losing at home in a game OSU should have won. At least Matta went to some man to man late. Maybe see some more of that?
Dec 30, 2014 3:02pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:02 PM
Joke of an effort today. Lazy on offense and defense today. Russell has pretty much choked against the 3 legitimate teams we have played this year. These freshman have to learn and carry this team, because it's obvious the seniors aren't capable of it.
Dec 30, 2014 3:02pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:11 PM
I am a lot higher on Iowa than most, but still didn't expect them to dominate today. Expected a win, but despite the score the game was never really in doubt.
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Dec 30, 2014 3:23 PM
se-alum;1690715 wrote:Joke of an effort today. Lazy on offense and defense today. Russell has pretty much choked against the 3 legitimate teams we have played this year. These freshman have to learn and carry this team, because it's obvious the seniors aren't capable of it.
I'll agree on effort. But Russell didn't exactly choke IMO. He basically brought OSU back against UL by himself. He had foul trouble today. And when Scott is non existent, teams are easily going to focus on Russell. He didn't shoot the 3 well today. But wasn't that bad. When you dig yourself a hole like that, players are going to press a bit to get team back in game. Puts the best player in a bad position at times when forced to make plays. He is least of my concerns. Scott at top of it. But overall, as you mentioned, the lack of effort, especially at the start of the game, was just piss poor.
Dec 30, 2014 3:23pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:25 PM
Laley23;1690717 wrote:I am a lot higher on Iowa than most, but still didn't expect them to dominate today. Expected a win, but despite the score the game was never really in doubt.
They have a nice team capable of beating many teams. But also, capable of losing to anyone. Nothing inside. Anyone with an inside game is going to hurt them. They can shoot the ball and against OSU piss poor zone...well, we saw what can happen.
Dec 30, 2014 3:25pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:37 PM
centralbucksfan;1690724 wrote:I'll agree on effort. But Russell didn't exactly choke IMO. He basically brought OSU back against UL by himself. He had foul trouble today. And when Scott is non existent, teams are easily going to focus on Russell. He didn't shoot the 3 well today. But wasn't that bad. When you dig yourself a hole like that, players are going to press a bit to get team back in game. Puts the best player in a bad position at times when forced to make plays. He is least of my concerns. Scott at top of it. But overall, as you mentioned, the lack of effort, especially at the start of the game, was just piss poor.
Russell was 6-20 against Louisville, 4-17 against UNC, and 4-16 today. He's struggled mightily in the 3 biggest games OSU has played. He has to be much better for OSU to be a factor this year. It's obviously not all his fault, but he has a lot of work today. I would love to see Tate start for Scott, and Lee for Williams, but we all know Matta will never do that, no matter how bad Scott & Williams play.
Dec 30, 2014 3:37pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:39 PM
They are find inside. White and Woodbury aren't bangers, but they can defend the post fine. Great length elsewhere as well helps.
Dec 30, 2014 3:39pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:40 PM
se-alum;1690734 wrote:Russell was 6-20 against Louisville, 4-17 against UNC, and 4-16 today. He's struggled mightily in the 3 biggest games OSU has played. He has to be much better for OSU to be a factor this year. It's obviously not all his fault, but he has a lot of work today. I would love to see Tate start for Scott, and Lee for Williams, but we all know Matta will never do that, no matter how bad Scott & Williams play.
@Justin_Albers: Vs. KenPom Top 50:


D’Angelo Russell: 13.7 ppg, 14-53 FG (26%), 4-24 3FG (17%).
Dec 30, 2014 3:40pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:42 PM
se-alum;1690734 wrote:Russell was 6-20 against Louisville, 4-17 against UNC, and 4-16 today. He's struggled mightily in the 3 biggest games OSU has played. He has to be much better for OSU to be a factor this year. It's obviously not all his fault, but he has a lot of work today. I would love to see Tate start for Scott, and Lee for Williams, but we all know Matta will never do that, no matter how bad Scott & Williams play.
Hard to argue that. But again, the team getting down big as they do early, puts a lot of pressure on Russell to make something happen. So I am not putting it all on him. And in those games, he was also involved in getting OSU back in the game and giving them a chance. Amir actually played decent today. And Lee...well, I am hugely disappointed in him thus far. I really expected him to be a big factor with this team. Scott..well, he has no excuses. Poor turnovers, poor shot selection. And I have seen an attitude with him as well. Today, got his shot blocked, while getting back..he basically let guy go right by him to the rim. This from a senior? So ya, IDK. Team has potential and I am still optimistic they will get better. I believe a few years ago they started off like 1-3 in Big Ten and then went on a great run. We'll see...
Dec 30, 2014 3:42pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:49 PM
I do agree that the zone is the root of all the problems. Creates such a lackadaisical attitude. Right out of the gate, they are relaxed. I did it all the time in high school, and I assume the mindset is the same in college, based on the results.
Dec 30, 2014 3:49pm
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Dec 30, 2014 3:58 PM
Bad loss. Iowa is not a good team.
Dec 30, 2014 3:58pm
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Dec 30, 2014 4:04 PM
There's something to be said for dominating hordes of weak-ass teams by 40+ points and then not looking like you have a clue when going against opponents that actually have some degree of ability.

It's not good, but there is something to be said.
Dec 30, 2014 4:04pm
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Dec 30, 2014 4:06 PM
Mulva;1690752 wrote:Bad loss. Iowa is not a good team.
They are not great. But, what have they done to make everyone think they suck?
Dec 30, 2014 4:06pm
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Dec 30, 2014 4:06 PM
Heretic;1690756 wrote:There's something to be said for dominating hordes of weak-ass teams by 40+ points and then not looking like you have a clue when going against opponents that actually have some degree of ability.

It's not good, but there is something to be said.
Something is to be said and time will tell.
Dec 30, 2014 4:06pm