Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 20, 2013 8:04pm
Is on TNT right now. Fucking love this movie. A must watch for me whenever its on TV. I will probably be switching it between the Colts-Broncos game though.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 20, 2013 8:31pm
Great movie. Joaquin Phoenix just might go down as one of the two or three greatest actors of his generation. A phenomenal talent. If I had to choose between him and Leo, I'm not sure whom I'd go with as my favorite actor. It's almost a toss up for me.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 20, 2013 8:39pm
River Phoenix was better in Stand By Me.
Curly J
Posts: 7,282
Oct 20, 2013 10:21pm
Every time I hear Gladiator I think of a punch line a Man with hair between his teeth.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 21, 2013 12:06pm
reclegend22;1520985 wrote: Joaquin Phoenix just might go down as one of the two or three greatest actors of his generation.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 12:16pm
While you certainly present a well thought-out and reasoned argument, IMDb actually ranks Phoenix ahead of acting giants Brad Pitt, Christian Bale, Forest Whitaker and Matt Damon on its list of 100 Greatest Actors of All-Time, at No. 59. He is without question one of the very best actors of his generation, and probably top five. His performance as Johnny Cash alone elevated him to legendary status.dlazz;1521240 wrote:
It's funny you call people out for trolling, when that's clearly your MO.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 21, 2013 12:40pm
Yea. He made The Village an awesome movie. Top 5 movie of all time, for sure.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 12:53pm
Yes, because Joaquin Phoenix's entire career is based on The Village.TedSheckler;1521264 wrote:Yea. He made The Village an awesome movie. Top 5 movie of all time, for sure.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 21, 2013 12:55pm
Dude, you're forgetting about Ladder 49. Such a masterpiece. People have been talking about that one since it came out.TedSheckler;1521264 wrote:Yea. He made The Village an awesome movie. Top 5 movie of all time, for sure.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 21, 2013 12:55pm
Nor should it be based solely on Gladiator and Walk the Line.reclegend22;1521280 wrote:Yes, because Joaquin Phoenix's entire career is based on The Village.
He sucks.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 1:00pm
You rely on critical reviews of Eminem's career to form the conclusion that Eminem has sucked since 2002, yet fail to recognize the critically-acclaimed reviews of Joaquin Phoenix's career based on just not wanting to. Got it.dlazz;1521282 wrote:Dude, you're forgetting about Ladder 49. Such a masterpiece. People have been talking about that one since it came out.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 21, 2013 1:02pm
I didn't rely on critical reviews to form that opinion, I relied on my ability to listen to music and deduce that his quality tapered off. I used critical reviews to drive the point home that I wasn't the only one who felt this way.reclegend22;1521288 wrote:You rely on critical reviews of Eminem's career to form the conclusion that Eminem has sucked since 2002, yet fail to recognize the critically-acclaimed reviews of Joaquin Phoenix's career based on just not wanting to. Got it.
Joaquin on the other hand has been average from the get-go, with an exception on Walk the Line which was an meh movie.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 21, 2013 1:03pm
Ahh, yea. Forgot about that one. I can't believe he wasn't nominated for a Golden Globe for that.dlazz;1521282 wrote:Dude, you're forgetting about Ladder 49. Such a masterpiece. People have been talking about that one since it came out.
Joaquin Phoenix should go hang out at The Viper Room and hope to die.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 1:04pm
He's been nominated for three Academy Awards. Being nominated for Oscars isn't the end-all argument, but I'm not sure I'd use the term "average" to describe the acting ability of Joaquin Phoenix.
I'd be interested in your top five list of actors of his generation (actors in their 40s and under).
I'd be interested in your top five list of actors of his generation (actors in their 40s and under).
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 1:07pm
Actually, it'd probably be 30s and under. Although, I'm not sure what the best way to really differentiate between acting generations is, since many of their ages are all over the place.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Oct 21, 2013 1:07pm
What about The Master? I heard he was solid in that, I've yet to watch though.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 1:10pm
It was a weird film, but Phoenix and Phillip Seymour Hoffman were both excellent, with Phoenix being nominated for an Oscar. Great chemistry.Automatik;1521300 wrote:What about The Master? I heard he was solid in that, I've yet to watch though.
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 21, 2013 1:11pm
40's is hard to do, so here's a list of people 45 and younger in no order that are vastly superior to Jjoweazuinqin Phoenix:
Di Caprio
Mark Whalberg
Matt Damon
Jake Gyllenhaal
Hugh Jackman
I could keep going but I have better things to do than debate you on this topic.
Di Caprio
Mark Whalberg
Matt Damon
Jake Gyllenhaal
Hugh Jackman
I could keep going but I have better things to do than debate you on this topic.
TedSheckler
Posts: 3,974
Oct 21, 2013 1:12pm
Kristen Stewartreclegend22;1521296 wrote:I'd be interested in your top five list of actors of his generation (actors in their 40s and under).
Lindsay Lohan
Hayden Christensen
Paul Walker
Vin Diesel
Is Adam Sandler under 40? He's be in my Top 5 if he is.
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 1:19pm
I love Mark Walhberg, but he's not vastly superior to Joaquin Phoenix.dlazz;1521308 wrote:40's is hard to do, so here's a list of people 45 and younger in no order that are vastly superior to Jjoweazuinqin Phoenix:
Di Caprio
Mark Whalberg
Matt Damon
Jake Gyllenhaal
Hugh Jackman
I could keep going but I have better things to do than debate you on this topic.
And, I agree, this is an incredibly stupid debate.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Oct 21, 2013 1:54pm
Just wait till this one comes out this winter.reclegend22;1521316 wrote:I love Mark Walhberg, but he's not vastly superior to Joaquin Phoenix.
And, I agree, this is an incredibly stupid debate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGexkC-lvh4
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Oct 21, 2013 1:59pm
I like Whalberg and Gyllenhall, but they have made some terrible movies. Not sure Id use them to put ahead of Phoenix.
Marky Mark does have FEAR, which alone could put him #1 all time...
Marky Mark does have FEAR, which alone could put him #1 all time...
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Oct 21, 2013 3:55pm
Laley23;1521340 wrote:I like Whalberg and Gyllenhall, but they have made some terrible movies. Not sure Id use them to put ahead of Phoenix.
Marky Mark does have FEAR, which alone could put him #1 all time...
Great cult film, I must admit. I watch it every time I see it. As for Wahlberg's real career, he was outstanding in a few films -- The Yards and The Departed, notably -- and I do like him. He's just not as versatile as Phoenix and it's not even close.
And Jake Gyllenhall was outstanding in The Day After Tomorrow, which was an utterly convincing end-of-the-world apocalyptic film that featured totally-believable computer-generated flesh-eating wolves and wasn't terrible at all.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Oct 21, 2013 6:50pm
Mark Wahlberg is one of my favorite actors as I pretty much like every movie he has been in but his acting in The Happening was horrifically bad. So much it almost had to be a joke the way he was acting in that POS.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 22, 2013 10:24am
All this gladiator talk and nobody is mentioning that Russell Crowe is a pretty good actor too lol, in fact he's the best in this movie! LA Confidential, Master and Commander, Cinderella Man, 3:10 to Yuma, Body of Lies, American Gangster and then his big ones in the Gladiator, The Insider and my favorite of his A Beautiful Mind