sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 10, 2013 12:04pm
Anyone remember a few years ago we kept hearing that SEC teams score so few points because the SEC defenses are just to good and other conferences such as the B12 play no defense etc?
Well then Texas A&M joined the conference(a B12 transfer) and lite up the conference at 40+ points a game and now all we hear about is how SEC offenses are so advanced and can really put up points.
The bottom line is the SEC is overrated and I can't wait to play anyone from that conference not named Bama(I still think we can stand toe to toe with Bama) because it'll be a shootout that Ohio State will out shoot. : thumbup:
Thoughts?
Well then Texas A&M joined the conference(a B12 transfer) and lite up the conference at 40+ points a game and now all we hear about is how SEC offenses are so advanced and can really put up points.
The bottom line is the SEC is overrated and I can't wait to play anyone from that conference not named Bama(I still think we can stand toe to toe with Bama) because it'll be a shootout that Ohio State will out shoot. : thumbup:
Thoughts?
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MontyBrunswick
Oct 10, 2013 12:08pm
I agree with everything you said.
I really wanted Houston to play a BCS bowl a few years ago when they had Keenum at the helm. I think if they drew a SEC team in their BCS bowl they would've humiliated them.
humiliated = beaten or competed with, not necessarily won
I really wanted Houston to play a BCS bowl a few years ago when they had Keenum at the helm. I think if they drew a SEC team in their BCS bowl they would've humiliated them.
humiliated = beaten or competed with, not necessarily won
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Oct 10, 2013 12:28pm
Exactly we saw last year with teddy bridgewater what a good qb will do to the "great" SEC defenses.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 10, 2013 12:30pm
The SEC still has never won a legitimate BCS championship either.
2007: Florida won the ship but Boise State undefeated
2008: LSU went; but Hawaii undefeated
2009: Florida, Utah undefeated
2010: Alabama; cinci, TCU, Boise undefeated
2011: Auburn, TCU undefeated
2012: Alabama, SEC vs. SEC, OK state should have gone
2013: Alabama went with 1 loss, OSU undefeated
Unfortunately, you need an * next to all their wins.
2007: Florida won the ship but Boise State undefeated
2008: LSU went; but Hawaii undefeated
2009: Florida, Utah undefeated
2010: Alabama; cinci, TCU, Boise undefeated
2011: Auburn, TCU undefeated
2012: Alabama, SEC vs. SEC, OK state should have gone
2013: Alabama went with 1 loss, OSU undefeated
Unfortunately, you need an * next to all their wins.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 10, 2013 1:05pm
Haha, you referenced undefeated teams (Hawaii, Cincinnati) who got crushed in bowl games by SEC teams who didn't win the SEC...
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Oct 10, 2013 1:07pm
BTW, I'm not actually disagreeing with you either. The system we have now is really flawed. But c'mon, some of what you just posted is pretty out there as a legit argument.
I don't remember exactly but I'd bet you were probably calling Cincinnati garbage that entire season...
I don't remember exactly but I'd bet you were probably calling Cincinnati garbage that entire season...
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Oct 10, 2013 1:57pm
my favorite part is Texas A&M coming to the SEC after going 6-6 in the Big 12 and losing a first round talent at QB, they essentially shit all over the SEC.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Oct 10, 2013 2:01pm
I remember and he definitely did. Pretty sure he made the comment once that OSU would beat Cinny by like 3 TDs that year lol.Azubuike24;1515959 wrote:BTW, I'm not actually disagreeing with you either. The system we have now is really flawed. But c'mon, some of what you just posted is pretty out there as a legit argument.
I don't remember exactly but I'd bet you were probably calling Cincinnati garbage that entire season...
Really the only non legitimate one I'd say the SEC didn't win was 2 years ago. Most knew Bama was the best but would have loved to see Oklahoma State play them instead of that shitty LSU team. And yes I know LSU was undefeated that year but it was a not a good team.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 10, 2013 2:12pm
These teams didn't care; they got shafted from what they rightfully deserved, a BCS championship. And remind me of the Utah team that got blown out by Alabama? Or the Boise team that ran train on Oklahoma? Sorry, but the SEC has an * next to their(the conference lol) championships; no way to spin it.Azubuike24;1515958 wrote:Haha, you referenced undefeated teams (Hawaii, Cincinnati) who got crushed in bowl games by SEC teams who didn't win the SEC...
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 10, 2013 3:26pm
LOL seriously? Manziel has been the best QB in the country for the last 2 years with amazing talent at WR. MUCH better college QB than Tannehill. Comparing the 2 is beyond dumb. Also, for some reason I was a little shocked to see sleeper still crying about the SEC. Not really sure why.Pick6;1515974 wrote:my favorite part is Texas A&M coming to the SEC after going 6-6 in the Big 12 and losing a first round talent at QB, they essentially shit all over the SEC.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Oct 10, 2013 3:50pm
Manziel is only labeled the best QB because he went to an easier conference and tore it up. Manziel wouldn't last a minute in the B1G.Rotinaj;1516013 wrote:LOL seriously? Manziel has been the best QB in the country for the last 2 years with amazing talent at WR. MUCH better college QB than Tannehill. Comparing the 2 is beyond dumb. Also, for some reason I was a little shocked to see sleeper still crying about the SEC. Not really sure why.
#1DBag
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Oct 11, 2013 12:48am
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 11, 2013 8:48am
Love seeing Sleeper back ripping on the SEC. Everything he says is 100% true. Bank it.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 11, 2013 9:43am
There are only 2 teams he wouldn't be starting on in the B1G.sleeper;1516031 wrote:Manziel is only labeled the best QB because he went to an easier conference and tore it up. Manziel wouldn't last a minute in the B1G.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 11, 2013 10:02am
I think a lot of the transition from low scoring offenses to high scoring offenses has to do with improvement in quarterback play throughout the conference.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Oct 11, 2013 10:03am
Are you saying you think there are 2 B1G QBs better than Manziel or that if he transferred they would stick with who they have?wildcats20;1516278 wrote:There are only 2 teams he wouldn't be starting on in the B1G.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Oct 11, 2013 10:31am
I'm saying there are 2(probably only 1) that he would not be starting at today.Rotinaj;1516304 wrote:Are you saying you think there are 2 B1G QBs better than Manziel or that if he transferred they would stick with who they have?
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 14, 2013 8:56am
That whole year was weak for college football. Hell Michigan and VT played in the Sugar Bowl, and they both were vastly overrated. It was more like they're the only 10 win teams leftIliketurtles;1515977 wrote:I remember and he definitely did. Pretty sure he made the comment once that OSU would beat Cinny by like 3 TDs that year lol.
Really the only non legitimate one I'd say the SEC didn't win was 2 years ago. Most knew Bama was the best but would have loved to see Oklahoma State play them instead of that shitty LSU team. And yes I know LSU was undefeated that year but it was a not a good team.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Oct 14, 2013 8:57am
False. I love Braxton but he's no Johnny. That guy is seriously like a jacked up video game characterwildcats20;1516278 wrote:There are only 2 teams he wouldn't be starting on in the B1G.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
Oct 14, 2013 6:30pm
I agree. No way Braxton starts over Manziel.Classyposter58;1517662 wrote:False. I love Braxton but he's no Johnny. That guy is seriously like a jacked up video game character
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Oct 14, 2013 6:40pm
I'd take Johnny Football over Braxton no question. Dude is phenomenal.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Oct 14, 2013 10:59pm
The left knee has been identified now its up to the right player to step up and take Manzier down.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 15, 2013 9:31am
Classyposter58;1517662 wrote:False. I love Braxton but he's no Johnny. That guy is seriously like a jacked up video game character
pmoney25;1517941 wrote:I agree. No way Braxton starts over Manziel.
lolTerry_Tate;1517947 wrote:I'd take Johnny Football over Braxton no question. Dude is phenomenal.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Oct 15, 2013 9:44am
Fixed for accuracy.Terry_Tate;1517947 wrote:I'd take Johnny Douchebag over Braxton no question. Dude is phenomenal.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Oct 15, 2013 1:01pm
I don't think Manziel is any douchier (he might even be slightly less douchey) than Pryor.vball10set;1518146 wrote:Fixed for accuracy.