Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back for that prediction. Really went out on a limb there SE. :rolleyes:se-alum;1502383 wrote:I laughed when people thought Weeden would suddenly get it with the new regime, and I was right. QB's that are going to be good show glimpses, which Weeden never has.
I know right. I definitely didn't go out on a limb, which makes me wonder how people that seem to be pretty knowledgeable about football thought he would be anyting different than what he was last year. The logic that him having to throw the ball further down the field in this offense would somehow make him more accurate is a ludicrous thought process.Commander of Awesome;1502402 wrote:Don't hurt your shoulder patting yourself on the back for that prediction. Really went out on a limb there SE. :rolleyes:
PT is a good player. I'd still take that trade any day of the week. I sure as hell wouldn't have wasted those two picks on weeden and t rich though.Pick6;1502434 wrote:Yea these WRs suck as well. Its a good thing they let the Falcons take Julio Jones and got Phil '15 yarder' Taylor and Weeden.
Weeden was a joke, but I'd rather have JJ Watt, Aldon Smith, and Colin Kapernick over Julio Jones. All players the Browns passed on. I'd be more pissed about that than not taking Julio Jones. I have no issues with Phil Taylor.Pick6;1502434 wrote:Yea these WRs suck as well. Its a good thing they let the Falcons take Julio Jones and got Phil '15 yarder' Taylor and Weeden.
He is a cowboys fan, don't forget.Commander of Awesome;1502436 wrote:Weeden was a joke, but I'd rather have JJ Watt, Aldon Smith, and Colin Kapernick over Julio Jones. All players the Browns passed on. I'd be more pissed about that than not taking Julio Jones. I have no issues with Phil Taylor.
Yeah, first off you don't take RBs in the top 5. Period. And you also don't draft 28/29 yr old QBs who have issues facing pass rush in college in the 1st. Just a waste all around.Laley23;1502438 wrote:That was a great trade. What they did with it the following year is beyond comprehension, really.
Commander of Awesome;1502436 wrote:Weeden was a joke, but I'd rather have JJ Watt, Aldon Smith, and Colin Kapernick over Julio Jones. All players the Browns passed on. I'd be more pissed about that than not taking Julio Jones. I have no issues with Phil Taylor.
I agree with these especially about passing on Watt and Smith I'm not a big Kap fan though and especially wasn't 2 years ago. PT was a nice pick though. Taking Weeden was obviously a terrible pick. As for Richardson I don't think it was terrible definitely but wouldn't have traded up to make sure I got him.Laley23;1502438 wrote:That was a great trade. What they did with it the following year is beyond comprehension, really.
Not at all.like_that;1502433 wrote:Isn't SE a bengals fan?
I think you're in the same boat we are right now where it's just tough to gauge how good/bad a lot of skill position players are just because of how bad the line is. With horrible line play, the only backs I'd think would have success would be the super-quick ones who can get outside in a hurry and for QBs, probably guys with great peripheral vision and a quick release. Standard feature backs and power-arm QBs are pretty much gonna struggle.Commander of Awesome;1502442 wrote:I'm probably a sucker, but I'm still a believer in Trich. I don't like trading up for him, and its really hard to argue in favor of him right now but I still think he can play at a pro bowl level.When he's not on the field on 3rd downs, running behind the worst Oline in the NFL right now, and a joke of a QB in front of him (plus Maeric and Oby as his FB LOL) I can make a lot of excuses for him. Granted at some point the talent has to show, but I'm not ready to write him off yet.
[video=youtube;fTem0Q7Nk0Q][/video]SportsAndLady;1502488 wrote:Yay now everyone's on my side about weeden and ill stop being called a troll when I say he sucks!
Nothing personal but I'll call you a "sucker." I don't think he's ever going to be anything special because of a) the O-Line, b) the systems he in (doesn't seem to get used enough/correctly) c) durability and d) for as big and "bruising" he is, he runs soft. Too much dancing instead of one cut & go. Look at Marshawn Lynch...one cut and punishment. THAT is what T-Rich should be. I just don't ever see it.Commander of Awesome;1502442 wrote:I'm probably a sucker, but I'm still a believer in Trich. I don't like trading up for him, and its really hard to argue in favor of him right now but I still think he can play at a pro bowl level.When he's not on the field on 3rd downs, running behind the worst Oline in the NFL right now, and a joke of a QB in front of him (plus Maeric and Oby as his FB LOL) I can make a lot of excuses for him. Granted at some point the talent has to show, but I'm not ready to write him off yet.
Super Bowl run starts Sunday.gorocks99;1502822 wrote:Brian Hoyer gets the start Sunday
