darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 30, 2009 1:00am
The Sagarin have been around since 1950?
NNN
Posts: 902
Dec 30, 2009 1:37am
No, but if you feed data into an algorithm, you can go back as far as the data is available for.darbypitcher22 wrote: The Sagarin have been around since 1950?
darbypitcher22
Posts: 8,000
Dec 30, 2009 10:42am
^^^^^
Got it. Makes some more sense now
Got it. Makes some more sense now
Red_Skin_Pride
Posts: 1,226
Dec 30, 2009 7:09pm
^^On a related note, if my aunt had a dick she'd be my uncle.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Dec 30, 2009 7:27pm
Just an interesting story about Kentucky history I'll share with those who may not know 
In 1950-51, Kentucky won it's 3rd national championship in basketball after going 32-2 and defeating Kansas State in the NCAA Championship game. Ironically, the basketball team played 2 games in New Orleans at the Sugar Bowl just three days prior to the big football game against Oklahoma and in those two games, was beaten by St. Louis University and defeated Syracuse.
Also in 1950, the Kentucky football team went 11-1 and defeated unbeaten and #1 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl 13-7. The Associated Press had voted Oklahoma their national champion prior to the season ending and therefore, even though Kentucky finished #1 (in various polls) and defeated the then #1, national champion, they were not awarded the AP National Championship, which is what is recognized by the NCAA.
To quote Bear Bryant in a 1966 interview, "When I try to put my finger on it I can't say exactly why I left Kentucky, I can't really say. If Adolph Rupp had retired as basketball coach when they said he was going to I'd probably still be at Kentucky. The trouble was we were too much alike, and he wanted basketball No. 1 and I wanted football No. 1. In an environment like that one or the other has to go."
I know the University of Florida claims to be the first to ever win the NCAA championship in basketball and football in the same year, and technically, they are, but it's usually lost in time that Kentucky was basically a technicality away from achieving this great feat 55 years earlier. To add to it, they did it with arguably the greatest coach in the history of each respective sport at the helm at one time!
In 1950-51, Kentucky won it's 3rd national championship in basketball after going 32-2 and defeating Kansas State in the NCAA Championship game. Ironically, the basketball team played 2 games in New Orleans at the Sugar Bowl just three days prior to the big football game against Oklahoma and in those two games, was beaten by St. Louis University and defeated Syracuse.
Also in 1950, the Kentucky football team went 11-1 and defeated unbeaten and #1 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl 13-7. The Associated Press had voted Oklahoma their national champion prior to the season ending and therefore, even though Kentucky finished #1 (in various polls) and defeated the then #1, national champion, they were not awarded the AP National Championship, which is what is recognized by the NCAA.
To quote Bear Bryant in a 1966 interview, "When I try to put my finger on it I can't say exactly why I left Kentucky, I can't really say. If Adolph Rupp had retired as basketball coach when they said he was going to I'd probably still be at Kentucky. The trouble was we were too much alike, and he wanted basketball No. 1 and I wanted football No. 1. In an environment like that one or the other has to go."
I know the University of Florida claims to be the first to ever win the NCAA championship in basketball and football in the same year, and technically, they are, but it's usually lost in time that Kentucky was basically a technicality away from achieving this great feat 55 years earlier. To add to it, they did it with arguably the greatest coach in the history of each respective sport at the helm at one time!
Ankle Breaker
Posts: 398
Dec 31, 2009 11:03am
The Big 10 is 15-14 in bowl games vs. the SEC over the last 10 years. In the SEC's back yard, south of the Mason Dixon line.
jhay78
Posts: 1,917
Dec 31, 2009 12:38pm
Cool story- I see SEC coach-swapping goes back a long way, inspiring modern day Bear Bryants like Spurrier, Saban, Nutt, etc.Azubuike24 wrote: Just an interesting story about Kentucky history I'll share with those who may not know
In 1950-51, Kentucky won it's 3rd national championship in basketball after going 32-2 and defeating Kansas State in the NCAA Championship game. Ironically, the basketball team played 2 games in New Orleans at the Sugar Bowl just three days prior to the big football game against Oklahoma and in those two games, was beaten by St. Louis University and defeated Syracuse.
Also in 1950, the Kentucky football team went 11-1 and defeated unbeaten and #1 Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl 13-7. The Associated Press had voted Oklahoma their national champion prior to the season ending and therefore, even though Kentucky finished #1 (in various polls) and defeated the then #1, national champion, they were not awarded the AP National Championship, which is what is recognized by the NCAA.
To quote Bear Bryant in a 1966 interview, "When I try to put my finger on it I can't say exactly why I left Kentucky, I can't really say. If Adolph Rupp had retired as basketball coach when they said he was going to I'd probably still be at Kentucky. The trouble was we were too much alike, and he wanted basketball No. 1 and I wanted football No. 1. In an environment like that one or the other has to go."
I know the University of Florida claims to be the first to ever win the NCAA championship in basketball and football in the same year, and technically, they are, but it's usually lost in time that Kentucky was basically a technicality away from achieving this great feat 55 years earlier. To add to it, they did it with arguably the greatest coach in the history of each respective sport at the helm at one time!