
Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 28, 2009 2:57pm
As a Steelers fan, I admit bias in the whole thing. Strong "I HATE INDY AND WANT THEM TO FAIL AND POSSIBLY LOSE A COUPLE OF KNEES IN THE PROCESS" bias.Glory Days wrote: i dont see what the big deal is. would you rather see what Painter can do now in a real NFL game or later in the playoffs if Manning gets hurt? i think its stupid not to put in the second stringers in a game where the opponent is going 100%, not like a in preseason game. and who said they arent playing to win? you shoud be confident you can win no matter who you have on the field. i can imagine the crap the colts would get if Manning goes down in week 17 and they have to start Painter in 2 weeks.
But the simple truth is that during the Manning era there, they have failed all three times they've had a first-round bye, losing their FIRST playoff game each time (99-00, 05-06, 07-08). When you're either the first or second team in your conference, going one-and-done should never be acceptable. I don't recall the 99-00 stuff off the top of my head, but I recall they shut things down a week or so early in both of the other two years. That's the sort of thing that might raise warning signs if I'm associated with this team.
The year Manning won a Super Bowl? They were the third seed. No first round bye. I think they just overthink the whole, "But what if someone gets hurt?!?" thing and take their team out of the rhythm that got them a first-round bye, leading to them getting upset when they finally get back on the field. If that happens this year, I'll be happily having a Mercury Morris champagne toast in front of my TV.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 28, 2009 3:32pm
^^Steeler fans crying about the Colts laying down. Priceless. It's what virtually all teams do...in every sport. It sucjks...but that'
s what they do. Look at the Cavs last year. They had a chance to break an all time NBA record in going 40-1 at home...but they rested their players and lost.
Personnaly, I wish the Colts had done what Bellichek did....win em all. But, for every example shown where the resters lose in the playoffs, there are just as many examples wherby the resters won.
s what they do. Look at the Cavs last year. They had a chance to break an all time NBA record in going 40-1 at home...but they rested their players and lost.
Personnaly, I wish the Colts had done what Bellichek did....win em all. But, for every example shown where the resters lose in the playoffs, there are just as many examples wherby the resters won.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 28, 2009 3:35pm
It isn't just Steeler fans who think what the Colts did was idiotic.This team had a chance to make history and they couldn't dare themselves to be great. I hope the Colts win the Super Bowl. Then, they will always wonder "What If".
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indy-coach-gm-will-regret-giving-up
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indy-coach-gm-will-regret-giving-up

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2009 3:50pm
Do something 3 times...it doesn't work....well just keep doing it I guess.

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 28, 2009 4:19pm
A hilarious quote from that column:Prescott wrote: It isn't just Steeler fans who think what the Colts did was idiotic.This team had a chance to make history adn they couldn't dare themselves to great. I hope the Colts win the Super Bowl. Then, they will always wonder "What If".
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indy-coach-gm-will-regret-giving-up
"Knocking boots with Beyonce has never been one of my goals, but if presented the opportunity, you best believe I won’t labor through 20 minutes of foreplay and signal for Curtis Painter to finish the job."

big_red_drummer
Posts: 96
Dec 28, 2009 5:04pm


killer_ewok
Posts: 11,379
Dec 28, 2009 5:24pm
Fucking greatness!Heretic wrote:A hilarious quote from that column:Prescott wrote: It isn't just Steeler fans who think what the Colts did was idiotic.This team had a chance to make history adn they couldn't dare themselves to great. I hope the Colts win the Super Bowl. Then, they will always wonder "What If".
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indy-coach-gm-will-regret-giving-up
"Knocking boots with Beyonce has never been one of my goals, but if presented the opportunity, you best believe I won’t labor through 20 minutes of foreplay and signal for Curtis Painter to finish the job."

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Dec 28, 2009 6:13pm
but that theory doesnt work because only 5 of the #1 and #2 seeds have won the superbowl since 2000(9 total) anyway. so its not like all the other teams who dont rest their starters win when they have a bye. its not just a Colts problem trying to win as a top seed. only one #1 seed has won the superbowl since then, the 2003 patriots.Heretic wrote: As a Steelers fan, I admit bias in the whole thing. Strong "I HATE INDY AND WANT THEM TO FAIL AND POSSIBLY LOSE A COUPLE OF KNEES IN THE PROCESS" bias.
But the simple truth is that during the Manning era there, they have failed all three times they've had a first-round bye, losing their FIRST playoff game each time (99-00, 05-06, 07-08). When you're either the first or second team in your conference, going one-and-done should never be acceptable. I don't recall the 99-00 stuff off the top of my head, but I recall they shut things down a week or so early in both of the other two years. That's the sort of thing that might raise warning signs if I'm associated with this team.
The year Manning won a Super Bowl? They were the third seed. No first round bye. I think they just overthink the whole, "But what if someone gets hurt?!?" thing and take their team out of the rhythm that got them a first-round bye, leading to them getting upset when they finally get back on the field. If that happens this year, I'll be happily having a Mercury Morris champagne toast in front of my TV.
if you ask the players, the ones who really matter in all of this, they can care less about history, they want a superbowl ring.Prescott wrote: It isn't just Steeler fans who think what the Colts did was idiotic.This team had a chance to make history adn they couldn't dare themselves to great. I hope the Colts win the Super Bowl. Then, they will always wonder "What If".
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/indy-coach-gm-will-regret-giving-up
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 28, 2009 6:33pm
They could have HAD both.if you ask the players, the ones who really matter in all of this, they can care less about history, they want a superbowl ring.
If the players don't care about history, why do always hear from the 1972 Dolphins when a team challenges their unbeaten season.

Glory Days
Posts: 7,809
Dec 28, 2009 10:08pm
because they did it. everyone else now will be the second undefeated team with an asterik for playing more games. when was the last time you heard a player or coach at the beginning of the year say "i wanna go undefeated this year"?Prescott wrote:They could have HAD both.if you ask the players, the ones who really matter in all of this, they can care less about history, they want a superbowl ring.
If the players don't care about history, why do always hear from the 1972 Dolphins when a team challenges their unbeaten season.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 28, 2009 10:33pm
I like the point Whitlock made about since they did that they now have MORE pressure to win the Super Bowl.
And the Beyonce point....PRICELESS
And the Beyonce point....PRICELESS

NNN
Posts: 902
Dec 28, 2009 11:54pm
Because Mercury Morris has too much free time on his hands ever since his cocaine trafficking ring got shut down.Prescott wrote: They could have HAD both.
If the players don't care about history, why do always hear from the 1972 Dolphins when a team challenges their unbeaten season.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 29, 2009 12:28am
Because Mercury Morris has too much free time on his hands ever since his cocaine trafficking ring got shut down.
I think Morris and his teammates are just proud athletes who accomplished something that no other team has matched. The Colts had it and gave it away.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 29, 2009 12:31am
Have you ever heard a player or coach say, "I want to lose this game"?"i wanna go undefeated this year"?
As Herm Edwards said,You play to win the game".
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Dec 29, 2009 6:12am
Puddle Jumper wrote: Funny it was the Colts who rested their players that year as well and didn't they go on to win the Super Bowl?
Both of you are wrong. The one year the Colts didn't get upset was the year they didn't rest any players because they didn't have a high seed and first round bye guaranteed.Heretic wrote:
They shut down their stars nearly every year for the final week or so and wind up getting upset (with the obvious exception of their Super Bowl season).
The Colts have NEVER rested their players and made it to the Super Bowl. You'd think it was a trend they would notice.