said_aouita;1470402 wrote:So the world now is a better place because practically any tom, dick or harry can attend a class and become CCW?


OK.

Possibly. But I know I can protect me and my family.

TedSheckler;1470384 wrote:If it came down to me and my family and a bad guy with a gun? You bet your ass. I'm not waiting to get shot OR calling 911, and waiting for the dispatcher to send a cop to take care of the guy.

And like it's been said, CCW holders are some of the most responsible gun owners I know.

I really do understand your point. Hopefully judgement and awareness of your surroundings could prevent you from being in this type of situation.
I've never been in a situation yet in my life where I felt so much in danger that I needed to shoot somebody.

Neither have I, but I am prepared if and when it happens.

said_aouita;1470402 wrote:So the world now is a better place because practically any tom, **** or harry can attend a class and become CCW?


OK.

Also not true, and Tom, Dick or Harry LAW ABIDING CITIZEN can. That makes no difference to you?

said_aouita;1470347 wrote:I've never felt threatened in Chicago and the need to have a gun. Maybe someday I think it'll be necessary to carry one, just not yet.

I love Chicago (big city) with all exciting thing Chicago offers. I know the areas where not to go and the time most dangerous on the subways but that still doesn't account for the potential random danger.

In all my travel to Chicago I’ve had two situations where the potential for aggressive conflict could have happen but was diverted. One situation in the Lakeview area which is a very safe area, until crimialome looking for victims. I had my knife open in my coat pocket, my other knife open in my back pocket prepared to be confronted with the potential of robbery and the fear for my wife safety. I was prepared to take no prisoners. It was diverted when a police cruiser rounded the corner and they took off running. Yes the three individual had just robbed some other couple a few blocks away. Another office question my wife and I, we gave them description. In this situation next time in Chicago both my wife and I will be packing. The odds just when up in favor of the good guys…

It only takes a few armed citizens to act to prevent crime and to make the criminal think about their action. Under estimation the victim could be costly to the criminal. Chicago has a well armed and effect police however out numbered, the criminals are greater in number and also armed. Now in Chicago every citizen is a potential random victim, with a conceal carry citizens no longer are they potential victims but judge, jury of your own security…

Me?;1470412 wrote:Also not true, and Tom, Dick or Harry LAW ABIDING CITIZEN can. That makes no difference to you?

Do you understand the definition of practically?


Welcome to Ohio Chatter.

I have been in that situation and the worst thing I can imagine is feeling completely helpless. Which is where I was. Had I had my gun, I may not have even been able to pull it because of how it went down, but I would have been at least a little more comfortable knowing that it was available to me. Especially when you know the criminal has no idea you have it.

Belly, are we even sure you'll be able to carry in Chicago? A city law could prevent it within the city limits.

Me?;1470417 wrote:I have been in that situation and the worst thing I can imagine is feeling completely helpless. Which is where I was. Had I had my gun, I may not have even been able to pull it because of how it went down, but I would have been at least a little more comfortable knowing that it was available to me. Especially when you know the criminal has no idea you have it.

Good thing you are still alive today with out shooting at somebody.

Me?;1470421 wrote:Belly, are we even sure you'll be able to carry in Chicago? A city law could prevent it within the city limits.

If it's anything like Ohio, a city ordinance can not trump a state law.

Doesn't NYC have different laws than NY? A federal law can't trump a state law either but we have raids in Colorado and California dispensaries all the time.

Only because I got lucky. It was a man in his 40's in Detroit, walked up to my truck as if he was going to wash my windows. I put the window down to tell him no thanks and immediately had a gun to my head. His first words were, "I don't want to hurt you, I just need to feed my family". I offered him my wallet, showed him I had no cash and told him to take the credit cards if he wanted. He declined and walked away.

Me?;1470428 wrote:Doesn't NYC have different laws than NY?

To be able to carry in NYC, you have a lot more hoops to jump through, I know that.

Me?;1470431 wrote: in Detroit

well duh! That was your first mistake. Why in Gods name would you ever go to Detroit?



(kidding)

Me?;1470421 wrote:Belly, are we even sure you'll be able to carry in Chicago? A city law could prevent it within the city limits.

Good question. Illinois as a state can have casinos. But cook country (where Chicago is located) cannot.

SportsAndLady;1470435 wrote:Good question. Illinois as a state can have casinos. But cook country (where Chicago is located) cannot.

aaah ha! I thought it was just to be near O'hare. Isn't that Lake County?

What that casino...Horseshoe?

Me?;1470431 wrote:Only because I got lucky. It was a man in his 40's in Detroit, walked up to my truck as if he was going to wash my windows. I put the window down to tell him no thanks and immediately had a gun to my head. His first words were, "I don't want to hurt you, I just need to feed my family". I offered him my wallet, showed him I had no cash and told him to take the credit cards if he wanted. He declined and walked away.

My friend ... think it's Detroit
Again a lover of Detroit do business in and I sent my kids there for college... UDM
Widows up, door locked, never tail gate off the main street, keep a 2 car distance at stop signals and have one in the chamber on your lap.. mofo

Belly35;1470442 wrote:My friend ... think it's Detroit
Again a lover of Detroit do business in and I sent my kids there for college... UDM
Widows up, door locked, never tail gate off the main street, keep a 2 car distance at stop signals and have one in the chamber on your lap.. mofo

I was on a main street, and it was busy. No one seemed to even notice. Unfortunately at the time I was not carrying a weapon, but it's always attached to me now.

Me?;1470375 wrote: I carry daily. I once had a gun to my head, there wasn't a cop in sight. That caused me to get my permit. I've never had to pull it.

I'm curious....If someone has a gun pointed at you, much less to your head, are you really going to draw on them?

justincredible;1470349 wrote:I've never really felt threatened in any city I've ever been in. Doesn't mean danger can't spring up at any second. I'd rather be prepared if that were to happen.

Our last time in Chicago, we stayed on Belmont, and walked back (at night) from the Cubs game to our hotel. Instead of taking Clark all the way, we took Sheffield. Not the brightest idea, considering I was drunk. Definitely smelled plenty of pot, and the road was very dark, compared to Clark. Dum. But we made it out alive.

ernest_t_bass;1470641 wrote:Our last time in Chicago, we stayed on Belmont, and walked back (at night) from the Cubs game to our hotel. Instead of taking Clark all the way, we took Sheffield. Not the brightest idea, considering I was drunk. Definitely smelled plenty of pot, and the road was very dark, compared to Clark. Dum. But we made it out alive.

Lol Sheffield isn't bad at all.

You probably smelt pot of 22 year old hippies.

SportsAndLady;1470662 wrote:Lol Sheffield isn't bad at all.

You probably smelt pot of 22 year old hippies.

It ain't like where I live! Lol.

I always carry a tactical knife when I go to Detroit. Hope this helps

gut;1470635 wrote:I'm curious....If someone has a gun pointed at you, much less to your head, are you really going to draw on them?

I believe I already said in that particular situation I'm not sure if I even could have done anything.

The way I see it, it's like traveling in the winter. Better bring a heavy coat, hat, gloves and boots. It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. People get too emotional about firearms. It's not that much different than anything else. Your whole life is about preparing. School to prepare for work, work to prepare for a family/a living/a life, saving to prepare for a layoff/retirement/new house/etc., shopping to prepare dinner, packing to prepare for leaving, studying to prepare for a test. What is so insane about carrying to prepare to save your life from someone who has lost it?