Archive obamaKare: the destruction begins

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 8, 2013 10:22am

NC Health Exchange: Only 1 Person Signed Up So Far, But Hasn't Paid

Lone Applicant Already Targeted By Scammer...

fish82

Posts: 4,111

Nov 8, 2013 3:22pm

Not to pile on, but the dismal news for Obie just keeps coming.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165776/uninsured-americans-ignoring-health-exchange-sites.aspx

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jmog

Posts: 6,567

Nov 8, 2013 4:29pm

fish82;1532242 wrote:Not to pile on, but the dismal news for Obie just keeps coming.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/165776/uninsured-americans-ignoring-health-exchange-sites.aspx

You beat me too it.

Those that the plan was supposed to 'help' don't plan on using Obamacare by a 78% to 22% margin.

Does Boat still want to make the argument that American's and "50/50" on the ACA?

fish82

Posts: 4,111

Nov 8, 2013 5:28pm

jmog;1532286 wrote:You beat me too it.

Those that the plan was supposed to 'help' don't plan on using Obamacare by a 78% to 22% margin.

Does Boat still want to make the argument that American's and "50/50" on the ACA?

Not just that, but if the "young & healthies" don't sign up en masse....the entire program collapses under its own weight.

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gut

Posts: 15,058

Nov 8, 2013 11:16pm

jmog;1532286 wrote: Those that the plan was supposed to 'help' don't plan on using Obamacare by a 78% to 22% margin.

It's not suprising. Poor people don't want to pay one penny for health insurance - that comes out of the HBO/Showtime/Starz budget. And others, for similar reasons, prefer to spend their money on an XBox or IPhone rather than get nothing for their money (i.e. "unused" insurance).

Truthfully, the majority of people who buy insurance are going to basically get catastrophic coverage (if they've done the ROI), insuring against a bankruptcy. So people who don't have anything to lose in bankruptcy have no real incentive to buy health insurance to protect against it.

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 11, 2013 3:07pm

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenhayward/2013/11/11/obamacare-will-be-repealed-well-in-advance-of-the-2014-elections/

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 11, 2013 3:09pm

BoatShoes;1531081 wrote:How could I forget, "Death Panels"! LOL.

You mean, IPAB, the Independent Payment Advisory Board. That is the death panel, just to get the terminology correct.

Classyposter58

Posts: 6,321

Nov 11, 2013 6:07pm

This is such a damn mess, I am highly doubtful that this thing remains intact and will be repealed

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gut

Posts: 15,058

Nov 12, 2013 12:48am

Classyposter58;1533952 wrote:This is such a damn mess, I am highly doubtful that this thing remains intact and will be repealed

And it will be interesting to see how the community agitator handles this. There's no quick or easy fixes for this thing, so there will be a push to go single payer. The problem I see is if they didn't have the votes in 2009 (or they would have done it then), they don't have the votes now.

Obviously they would need Repub votes in the House to pass anything. But I'm not sure they can even get 50 Dems in the Senate to pass single payer. And in an election year? Oh boy

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 13, 2013 10:35am

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363699/truth-about-navigators-john-fund#!

obama's Acorn-now-turned-navigators advising citizens to lie in order to steal more from taxpayers.

Change we can believe in ...

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 13, 2013 2:20pm

Today's headlines / links via DrudgeReport

CALIFORNIA: 1 MILLION LOSE IT!
GOODWIN: Obama's Big Lie destroying his credibility...
PAPER: Site Won't Be Fixed By Month's End...
Flaw Allows Anyone on Earth To Fraudulently Enroll...
'No hope left'...
Americans struggle to replace canceled plans...
Democrats Fractured...
LARRY SUMMERS: Better than expected...
SICK: WebMD cashes in without telling readers...
Obamacare's Mystery Woman Says She Fell Victim to Cyberbullies...

TedSheckler

Posts: 3,974

Nov 13, 2013 3:49pm

Since Oct. 1, only 106,185 people have signed up for Obamacare. (And by "signed up, that includes people who have put plans in their carts, but not paid). Only 28,000 of those on healthcare.gov. Most of the 106K signed up for Medicare. What a failure.

Oh yea, and 7 million have lost their insurance.

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gut

Posts: 15,058

Nov 13, 2013 4:47pm

2009-2016 will come to be known as America's "lost Obamacade"

TedSheckler

Posts: 3,974

Nov 14, 2013 10:35am

So the idiot is about to speak in 45 minutes. He's got a fix for the ol' "if you like it you can keep it" dilemma. I'm guessing he thinks he has the authority to to tell the private insurance companies that were forced to drop people that they need to take them back. What a clusterfuck he created.

Basically, if the insurance companies refuse to take back the customer, they are now the bad guy. Passing the buck.

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gut

Posts: 15,058

Nov 14, 2013 11:51am

TedSheckler;1535464 wrote:So the idiot is about to speak in 45 minutes. He's got a fix for the ol' "if you like it you can keep it" dilemma. I'm guessing he thinks he has the authority to to tell the private insurance companies that were forced to drop people that they need to take them back. What a clusterfuck he created.

Basically, if the insurance companies refuse to take back the customer, they are now the bad guy. Passing the buck.

Not to mention, everyone is saying the insurance companies just can't reinstate/re-offer a plan they've canceled. Intuitively that makes a lot of sense - it doesn't take just a few days or weeks to price these things.

Then you have the issue if 50% or more of the market keeps their plans and pricing, then who's going to subsidize all the uninsured and high-risk people? The whole thing falls apart if they do that.

The goal here is clearly going to be to provide political cover for Senators with tough elections coming up, and to delay/distract/distort the truth until after 2014 elections.

I'll say this though: unintentionally Obama may actually be changing "politics as usual". I think a good % of the electorate is having their eyes opened about ALL politicians and the liberal media.

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Manhattan Buckeye

Posts: 7,566

Nov 14, 2013 2:10pm

"Not to mention,"

Not to mention part II, it is another lie/flipflop. Can anyone find and post his comments that these policies (that millions of Americans liked) weren't really "insurance" because it didn't cover maternity care for post-menopausal women and mental health for 93 year olds.

ernest_t_bass

Posts: 24,984

Nov 14, 2013 2:20pm

Got a letter in the mail yesterday, stating that my insurance will no longer cover PPI's as of 01/01/14. How many freaking american's suffer from acid related problems? An insurance company that doesn't cover PPI's?

Thanks, Obama

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Nov 14, 2013 5:21pm

Glad somebody in the media isn't trying his/her hardest to hide all of Obama's obvious flaws...
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2013/11/14/cbss-major-garrett-grills-president-obamacare-debacle-wheres-account

believer

Posts: 8,153

Nov 15, 2013 4:04am

gut;1535514 wrote:I'll say this though: unintentionally Obama may actually be changing "politics as usual". I think a good % of the electorate is having their eyes opened about ALL politicians and the liberal media.

The sheeple have short memories especially when the media helps the politicians push the "free stuff" idea.

When Barry's Media convinces the sheeple he'll single-handedly fix the Obamacare mess for free you'll see what I'm talking about.

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steubbigred

Posts: 1,392

Nov 15, 2013 9:03am

Great insite on the republican point of view on Obammacare

http://youtu.be/k0S3atr_Pal

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 16, 2013 5:03pm

THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS DROPPED FROM HEALTH PLANS

Change we can believe in ...

believer

Posts: 8,153

Nov 16, 2013 5:15pm

QuakerOats;1536918 wrote:THOUSANDS OF DOCTORS DROPPED FROM HEALTH PLANS

Change we can believe in ...

As soon as these old farts register with the death panels, drop Medicare altogether, and subscribe to the generous benefits of health care insurance via the wildly successful Obamacare web site the better off we'll all be.

SportsAndLady

Posts: 35,632

Nov 16, 2013 8:48pm

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/10-republicans-who-cheered-on-batkid-want-to-revoke-his-obamacare-20131116

Articles like that is what drives me insane with the media in this country.

believer

Posts: 8,153

Nov 16, 2013 9:07pm

SportsAndLady;1537061 wrote:http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/10-republicans-who-cheered-on-batkid-want-to-revoke-his-obamacare-20131116

Articles like that is what drives me insane with the media in this country.

Agreed but I'd hardly consider Rollingstoned ragazine as a credible news source.

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QuakerOats

Posts: 8,740

Nov 17, 2013 8:45am

If Healthcare.gov was a private entity the execs would be prosecuted by the Feds:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/363994/prosecute-healthcaregov-andrew-stiles

The FRAUD continues.

Change we can believe in ...