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Apr 27, 2015 11:25 AM
Heretic;1724044 wrote:That's pretty much what I do.

Going to start a high-intensity workout plan on Monday. Be interesting to see how that goes. Nice thing about this one is that you only really need dumbbells, as while many of the exercises might involve a pull-up bar or barbells, there are dumbbell alternatives for those. Which works for me, as I don't have the most free space out there to put weight stuff, so I focus on dumbbells since they don't take up much space.

It was a good run with the "make shit up as I go along" style of workout planning, but after a while, the results started stagnating and when that happens, I find it trickier for me to maintain interest in things.
Same here. Lucky to have a physical therapist and two nurses in my family so I can bounce different ailments off of them when I get hurt a bit.
Have to figure out if you are hurt or injured. Can you work through it or need time off? My two recent issues, back and lower calf, I worked through it. For me, it seems the more I baby an injury the longer it lingers. Last week I had a bad twinge in my lower calf during a run. Got sore and figured I would just keep running as it would probably put me on the shelf for a week or so. Iced it a couple of times that night...really struggled to walk and figured the worst.
Woke up injury free the next day. WTF man!
Apr 27, 2015 11:25am
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Apr 27, 2015 12:50 PM
thavoice;1724282 wrote:Same here. Lucky to have a physical therapist and two nurses in my family so I can bounce different ailments off of them when I get hurt a bit.
Have to figure out if you are hurt or injured. Can you work through it or need time off? My two recent issues, back and lower calf, I worked through it. For me, it seems the more I baby an injury the longer it lingers. Last week I had a bad twinge in my lower calf during a run. Got sore and figured I would just keep running as it would probably put me on the shelf for a week or so. Iced it a couple of times that night...really struggled to walk and figured the worst.
Woke up injury free the next day. WTF man!
I'm thinking my twinge had to do with how my old self-made workout was too much isolation and not enough "muscle groups working together". After day 1 of my new one actually devised by someone who makes money off this sort of thing, I feel no pain. Well other than having rubber legs right now, lol. Apparently legs have been really neglected with my stuff, so it'll take a bit of work just to get up to finishing a full workout.

At least that means I'll probably have good growth from week to week, as my more neglected groups start to get up there with the ones that are more developed. Or it'll kill me.
Apr 27, 2015 12:50pm
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Apr 27, 2015 2:32 PM
Just gave up the sauce (for the 2nd time in my life), so I want to turn my focus to building a healthy body, rather than damage it. Doing some cardio shit tomorrow, then I may look into some heavy lifting. Will probably do all dumbbells if I can't find anyone to workout with.
Apr 27, 2015 2:32pm
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Apr 27, 2015 3:51 PM
ernest_t_bass;1724333 wrote:Just gave up the sauce (for the 2nd time in my life), so I want to turn my focus to building a healthy body, rather than damage it. Doing some cardio shit tomorrow, then I may look into some heavy lifting. Will probably do all dumbbells if I can't find anyone to workout with.
I tried giving up booze, but I wasn't fully committed. I enjoy beer too much and drinking socially. I try to have 5 drinks or less a week (of course there are exceptions). I guess to each his own, but I always found it a lot easier to cut way back than to give it up completely.
Apr 27, 2015 3:51pm
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Apr 27, 2015 4:15 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1724360 wrote:I tried giving up booze, but I wasn't fully committed. I enjoy beer too much and drinking socially. I try to have 5 drinks or less a week (of course there are exceptions). I guess to each his own, but I always found it a lot easier to cut way back than to give it up completely.
Works for you, but I'm an alcoholic.
Apr 27, 2015 4:15pm
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Apr 27, 2015 4:20 PM
ernest_t_bass;1724365 wrote:Works for you, but I'm an alcoholic.
As in, once you start you don't stop until you're blacked out?

I do get times where I absolutely crave alcohol. I don't like getting hammered, but I really like feeling of that first drink and the buzz.
Apr 27, 2015 4:20pm
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Apr 27, 2015 6:10 PM
Raw Dawgin' it;1724368 wrote:As in, once you start you don't stop until you're blacked out?.
Pretty much. That, and craving it at all times of the day.
Apr 27, 2015 6:10pm
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Apr 28, 2015 7:07 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1724360 wrote:I tried giving up booze, but I wasn't fully committed. I enjoy beer too much and drinking socially. I try to have 5 drinks or less a week (of course there are exceptions). I guess to each his own, but I always found it a lot easier to cut way back than to give it up completely.
Same. I take the leangains approach for drinking. During a cut I keep my drinking to once a week.
Apr 28, 2015 7:07am
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Apr 28, 2015 8:41 AM
Had a 50 minute HIIT session this morning at freaking 5:00 a.m. at the local health studio. I feel great.

Day 2.
Apr 28, 2015 8:41am
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Apr 28, 2015 9:00 AM
50 minutes? I hope there were breaks and it wasn't a straight 50 minutes.
Apr 28, 2015 9:00am
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Apr 28, 2015 9:29 AM
ernest_t_bass;1724624 wrote:Had a 50 minute HIIT session this morning at freaking 5:00 a.m. at the local health studio. I feel great.

Day 2.
Holy shit man, that might kill you more than the booze.
Apr 28, 2015 9:29am
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Apr 28, 2015 9:40 AM
Raw Dawgin' it;1724663 wrote:Holy shit man, that might kill you more than the booze.
HIIT over 30 minutes might be overkill and even 30 minutes might be pushing it.
Apr 28, 2015 9:40am
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Apr 28, 2015 10:00 AM
Yeah man, maybe 5-8 intervals, no more than 30-45 seconds. The whole point of a HIIT workout is you don't have to do it for 50 minutes.

Now, if you're knees or back or whatever is jacked up, taking half that time doing foam rolling, mobility, warm-up, makes sense.

IMO, the biggest benefit of doing HIIT cardio is that I can still lift heavy 4-5 days a week and it doesn't crush my CNS. Anything similar to that for 50 minutes, no way your CNS isn't affected.
Apr 28, 2015 10:00am
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Apr 28, 2015 11:41 AM
BR1986FB;1724647 wrote:50 minutes? I hope there were breaks and it wasn't a straight 50 minutes.
Lifts involved. Stretching involved. Etc.
Apr 28, 2015 11:41am
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Apr 28, 2015 12:19 PM
BR1986FB;1724669 wrote:HIIT over 30 minutes might be overkill and even 30 minutes might be pushing it.
Yeah. I know on the plan I started, it's more of a 20-minute or so thing. Which I'm working to build up to. Today was a cardio day for me and I think I did 14 minutes of 30 seconds hard followed by 30 seconds at an easy pace. After 3-4 minutes of warming up.

One thing I'm loving about this stuff (other than the "weak-muscle" feel that lets me know I have a lot of gaining to accomplish) is that it's a natural appetite suppressant. Breakfast might be becoming a thing of the past because after I put in a HIIT workout, I have no desire to eat for a couple hours and then it's lunch time.
Apr 28, 2015 12:19pm
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Apr 28, 2015 1:24 PM
Heretic;1724764 wrote:Yeah. I know on the plan I started, it's more of a 20-minute or so thing. Which I'm working to build up to. Today was a cardio day for me and I think I did 14 minutes of 30 seconds hard followed by 30 seconds at an easy pace. After 3-4 minutes of warming up.

One thing I'm loving about this stuff (other than the "weak-muscle" feel that lets me know I have a lot of gaining to accomplish) is that it's a natural appetite suppressant. Breakfast might be becoming a thing of the past because after I put in a HIIT workout, I have no desire to eat for a couple hours and then it's lunch time.
I'm the opposite - working out makes me want to eat a house.
Apr 28, 2015 1:24pm
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Apr 28, 2015 2:21 PM
I've been trying to eat 6 meals during the work day, a PWO shake and then a decent sized dinner. It's a fucking chore. Tupperware every day, every 90 minutes or so getting up from the desk and prepping every few days. Basically consisting of the same 8 foods (grass-fed beef, tuna, pastured eggs, sweet potatoes, steel cut oats, bananas, brussel sprouts and walnuts). Never starving, but usually hungry for each one. The biggest challenge is I hate lifting later in the day because with that many meals in you, it's not always ideal conditions having a bit of a "full feeling" in the gym.
Apr 28, 2015 2:21pm
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Apr 28, 2015 2:23 PM
Azubuike24;1724837 wrote:I've been trying to eat 6 meals during the work day, a PWO shake and then a decent sized dinner. It's a fucking chore. Tupperware every day, every 90 minutes or so getting up from the desk and prepping every few days. Basically consisting of the same 8 foods (grass-fed beef, tuna, pastured eggs, sweet potatoes, steel cut oats, bananas, brussel sprouts and walnuts). Never starving, but usually hungry for each one. The biggest challenge is I hate lifting later in the day because with that many meals in you, it's not always ideal conditions having a bit of a "full feeling" in the gym.
Yeah, never been a big fan of eating that often. Just seems like you never get enough to really satisfy you.
I can have a bigger size meal and sustains me for much of the day.
Apr 28, 2015 2:23pm
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Apr 28, 2015 2:46 PM
Azubuike24;1724837 wrote:I've been trying to eat 6 meals during the work day, a PWO shake and then a decent sized dinner. It's a fucking chore. Tupperware every day, every 90 minutes or so getting up from the desk and prepping every few days. Basically consisting of the same 8 foods (grass-fed beef, tuna, pastured eggs, sweet potatoes, steel cut oats, bananas, brussel sprouts and walnuts). Never starving, but usually hungry for each one. The biggest challenge is I hate lifting later in the day because with that many meals in you, it's not always ideal conditions having a bit of a "full feeling" in the gym.
I was training before work but getting up at 4am was getting to be a bitch after awhile. I have two of my four weight workouts on Saturday & Sunday so that helps. Still can't make the call to train that early on weekdays though.
Apr 28, 2015 2:46pm
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Apr 28, 2015 3:00 PM
Agree. I hate being rushed, especially on leg days. I have a decently flexible job, but it still requires I get there sometime before 9-930-ish.
Apr 28, 2015 3:00pm
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Apr 28, 2015 3:06 PM
BR1986FB;1724860 wrote:I was training before work but getting up at 4am was getting to be a bitch after awhile. I have two of my four weight workouts on Saturday & Sunday so that helps. Still can't make the call to train that early on weekdays though.
Yeah, I use sat/sunday for a lot of my workouts as well. Allows me to keep Monday and friday as a total day off. BUT...i usually get antsy and one of those becomes another workout day.

4am...yeah that is early. Had 6 months of that straight.....not fun. Now my AM workouts are 630ish. They may start getting earlier as soon as the mornings arent so fucking cool/cold!
Apr 28, 2015 3:06pm
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Apr 28, 2015 3:09 PM
thavoice;1724871 wrote:Yeah, I use sat/sunday for a lot of my workouts as well. Allows me to keep Monday and friday as a total day off. BUT...i usually get antsy and one of those becomes another workout day.

4am...yeah that is early. Had 6 months of that straight.....not fun. Now my AM workouts are 630ish. They may start getting earlier as soon as the mornings arent so fucking cool/cold!
The cold is also something I take into consideration in the winter months. I train in my garage so it can be very cold in the winter. I have an electric furnace type setup out there but it takes awhile to warm up. Gripping a frozen barbell that early isn't fun. By training after work my girlfriend can at least turn on the heat for me so it's somewhat comfortable when I get home.
Apr 28, 2015 3:09pm
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Apr 28, 2015 3:11 PM
BR1986FB;1724876 wrote:The cold is also something I take into consideration in the winter months. I train in my garage so it can be very cold in the winter. I have an electric furnace type setup out there but it takes awhile to warm up. Gripping a frozen barbell that early isn't fun. By training after work my girlfriend can at least turn on the heat for me so it's somewhat comfortable when I get home.
Yeah...it is weird. I run outside 5-6 days a week, even in the winter. Doesnt bother me much then but now when the days/evenings are warmer I just cannot stand running early in the "cold" of 35 degrees...but in the winter I pray for 35 degree days!!!!! LIft in the basement so that is climate controlled.
Apr 28, 2015 3:11pm