justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 20, 2013 10:31am
Totally unexpected, too.Sonofanump;1460563 wrote:Did you guys have a harsh frost last night, I'd be more worried about that then a slight slope.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 10:52am
I would suggest to those with above ground garden, each year add more soil, manure to create good soil so that the soil is about 1 below the top board.. I found that the first two years my soil dropped almost 6 inches before and during the growing season ... during the dry part of the years the soil cracked and became harder and dryer quicker.. the fuller the beds with soil the less this happens . IMO only...
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 20, 2013 10:53am
I think this is good info and definitely something I plan on doing this off-season.Belly35;1460569 wrote:I would suggest to those with above ground garden, each year add more soil, manure to create good soil so that the soil is about 1 below the top board.. I found that the first two years my soil dropped almost 6 inches before and during the growing season ... during the dry part of the years the soil cracked and became harder and dryer quicker.. the fuller the beds with soil the less this happens . IMO only...
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 10:57am
My garden is not level over the years it has shifted ... no big deal what field is leveljustincredible;1460566 wrote:Totally unexpected, too.
Sometime a above ground garden is not effected by late frost. The board and soil seen to hold the heat of the day in long and protects the plants. Onion, radishes, beet and those types of plant will not be effected by frost.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 20, 2013 10:58am
Yes, good reminder. Mine is more 1/4 amended native soil and 3/4 garden soil. I took a smaller 2 cycle tiller and would till everything together every 2" or so.Belly35;1460569 wrote:I would suggest to those with above ground garden, each year add more soil, manure to create good soil so that the soil is about 1 below the top board.. I found that the first two years my soil dropped almost 6 inches before and during the growing season ... during the dry part of the years the soil cracked and became harder and dryer quicker.. the fuller the beds with soil the less this happens . IMO only...
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 11:29am
LJ;1460574 wrote:Yes, good reminder. Mine is more 1/4 amended native soil and 3/4 garden soil. I took a smaller 2 cycle tiller and would till everything together every 2" or so.
Now because my soil is a combo of top soil, garden mix (same same as yours) I use a garden weasel just to break up the top surface.
on my two beds 10x20 and 12 x 28 ?(I think) can remember now. If it wasn't for those dam maple trees helicopter I have little to know weeds.. </SPAN>
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jun 20, 2013 12:15pm
Best tip I can give is plant some marigolds in the garden they help keep bugs away. Not a tip but If you are trying to keep organic make sure the manure you are getting came from an organic farm.
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MontyBrunswick
Jun 20, 2013 12:18pm
I don't have a garden because I live next door to Meijer.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 20, 2013 1:34pm
Belly... answer my question about sandy soil. Thanx.
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Sonofanump
Jun 20, 2013 1:38pm
I like how you asked the question to Berry, the dude who doesn't post anymore but had the one line puns.ernest_t_bass;1460636 wrote:Belly... answer my question about sandy soil. Thanx.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jun 20, 2013 2:44pm
If its real sandy you need to mix some more soil with it. You also will have to water more cause it will drain faster then most soils.ernest_t_bass;1460636 wrote:Belly... answer my question about sandy soil. Thanx.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 3:01pm
Belly not Berry mofoernest_t_bass;1460636 wrote:Belly... answer my question about sandy soil. Thanx.
Sandy soil is a good/bad thing but can be easy fixed. Compost
You can buy compost at Lowes for $7.44 a bag
I would mix a bag Compost and a bag of Garden mix together and spread it into the sandy soil.
Sandy soil will not holds a fertizer waste of time for now... blend in the compost and garden mix and sometime at the end of the growing season add the fertizer with a little more compost.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 20, 2013 3:03pm
Does anyone do soil tests to check for pH or anything? I really have no idea if my soil is acidic or alkaline, not sure if it's that big of a deal or not.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 20, 2013 3:16pm
Thanks, nifoBelly35;1460686 wrote:Belly not Berry mofo
Sandy soil is a good/bad thing but can be easy fixed. Compost
You can buy compost at Lowes for $7.44 a bag
I would mix a bag Compost and a bag of Garden mix together and spread it into the sandy soil.
Sandy soil will not holds a fertizer waste of time for now... blend in the compost and garden mix and sometime at the end of the growing season add the fertizer with a little more compost.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Jun 20, 2013 3:22pm
Most fertilizer places does free soil tests for gardens. If you have one close to you you might just give them a call and see.justincredible;1460688 wrote:Does anyone do soil tests to check for pH or anything? I really have no idea if my soil is acidic or alkaline, not sure if it's that big of a deal or not.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 3:38pm
Adding a fence to the above ground garden
I I used galvanized pipe for the top and bottom spanning the length of my garden, zip ties, two opened screw type eye bolts and plastic green fencing. I used the green plastic fencing because it was light weight and did not get twisted or bent when setting the fence on the ground.
My garden spans over 20 feet so I had to use support post in the middle. With a shorter span this would not be needed. All I do is lift up the top bar and lower it to the ground and work on my garden, with the plastic fencing you can walk on it without damaging the fence.
I I used galvanized pipe for the top and bottom spanning the length of my garden, zip ties, two opened screw type eye bolts and plastic green fencing. I used the green plastic fencing because it was light weight and did not get twisted or bent when setting the fence on the ground.
My garden spans over 20 feet so I had to use support post in the middle. With a shorter span this would not be needed. All I do is lift up the top bar and lower it to the ground and work on my garden, with the plastic fencing you can walk on it without damaging the fence.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 3:40pm
I have never tested my soil with the burning, manure and added garden mix and then covering over winter .. IMO everything equals out...justincredible;1460688 wrote:Does anyone do soil tests to check for pH or anything? I really have no idea if my soil is acidic or alkaline, not sure if it's that big of a deal or not.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 20, 2013 3:44pm
This helps. Thanks. I'll be doing something like this this weekend.Belly35;1460717 wrote:Adding a fence to the above ground garden
I I used galvanized pipe for the top and bottom spanning the length of my garden, zip ties, two opened screw type eye bolts and plastic green fencing. I used the green plastic fencing because it was light weight and did not get twisted or bent when setting the fence on the ground.
My garden spans over 20 feet so I had to use support post in the middle. With a shorter span this would not be needed. All I do is lift up the top bar and lower it to the ground and work on my garden, with the plastic fencing you can walk on it without damaging the fence.
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 20, 2013 3:51pm
Note: I let the bottom hang down about 1 inch over the top board I would suggest 3 inchjustincredible;1460725 wrote:This helps. Thanks. I'll be doing something like this this weekend.
redstreak one
Posts: 1,152
Jun 20, 2013 8:40pm
I have a garden, I till it up in the spring, plant, weed, water (live on Scioto river bottoms sandy soil) when needed, eat. No fence, no raised beds, no fertilizer, don't care about the ph or alkaline level, but that soil is black as coal and can grow anything!
redrocket
Posts: 126
Jun 21, 2013 8:49am
Concrete farmers, LOL
Belly35
Posts: 9,716
Jun 21, 2013 10:15am
Hey! Hey! Country Bro we do what we have to do to get fresh eats .. we don't have the option like you "gathers" of berries, mushrooms, pine nuts and wild road kill liver...redrocket;1461045 wrote:Concrete farmers, LOL
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Jun 21, 2013 10:25am
I don't want to live in the city but I am stuck there for a while longer. Just making due with the hand I have been dealt. And I prefer the term Urban Farmer.redrocket;1461045 wrote:Concrete farmers, LOL
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jun 21, 2013 10:41am
Our Zucchini plants keep getting eaten alive. I have coated them in garden dust multiple times. That doesn't seem to be helping. Someone said to try spraying them with beer. Any other suggestions?
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
Jun 21, 2013 10:43am
LJ;1461105 wrote:Our Zucchini plants keep getting eaten alive. I have coated them in garden dust multiple times. That doesn't seem to be helping. Someone said to try spraying them with beer. Any other suggestions?
