Archive Buccos @ Redlegs - Game 1

Azubuike24

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Jun 17, 2013 10:02pm

Nice W.

se-alum

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Jun 17, 2013 10:43pm

Anyone catch this jewel from Dusty's post game interview?

Dusty: "Our home-field advantage is we can reach the fences. They can too. But this is our home park."

Azubuike24

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Jun 17, 2013 11:01pm

I mean, he's somewhat right. The Reds have a team, even their BAD hitters, they are guys who have 20-25 HR power. Frazier, Mesoraco and Cozart. Obviously, Choo, Votto, Bruce and Phillips have power.

The key is...the Reds aren't going to consistently take great pitchers deep. You aren't going to hit 4 solo HR's, in a playoff game against say, Adam Wainwright.

Ironman92

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Jun 17, 2013 11:06pm

se-alum;1459231 wrote:Anyone catch this jewel from Dusty's post game interview?

Dusty: "Our home-field advantage is we can reach the fences. They can too. But this is our home park."

The HF advantage was Leake was awesome and the bullpen finished it off.

SportsAndLady

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Jun 17, 2013 11:51pm

Azubuike24;1459237 wrote:I mean, he's somewhat right. The Reds have a team, even their BAD hitters, they are guys who have 20-25 HR power. Frazier, Mesoraco and Cozart. Obviously, Choo, Votto, Bruce and Phillips have power.

The key is...the Reds aren't going to consistently take great pitchers deep. You aren't going to hit 4 solo HR's, in a playoff game against say, Adam Wainwright.

Yep. You need to know how to manufacture runs in the playoffs against the best pitching. And when you can't do that, you're going to have to get a timely RBI single w/ 2 outs. Reds don't really do that against good pitching/teams. They are essentially doomed for another one and done in the playoffs. Unfortunate, too. So much talent on this team; just not coached correctly.

sherm03

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Jun 17, 2013 11:59pm

Lots of Pirates fans on Facebook and Twitter upset about Chapman's pitch in the 9th.

I looked it up, Reds batters have definitely been on the receiving end so far this year. Pirates batters have been hit 5 times this year. Reds batters have been hit 8.

Tomorrow should be fun.

Midstate01

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Jun 18, 2013 12:48am

If by now people dont see that Chapman is still wild, they never will. Pirates pitchers have hit more batters then any team. They've also been hit the most. I guess I can see them being upset since it was up and in. But we arent sitting here bitching about the 2 straight that almost hit choo above the shoulders in his at bat....

Heretic

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Jun 18, 2013 8:30am

sherm03;1459256 wrote:Lots of Pirates fans on Facebook and Twitter upset about Chapman's pitch in the 9th.

I looked it up, Reds batters have definitely been on the receiving end so far this year. Pirates batters have been hit 5 times this year. Reds batters have been hit 8.

Tomorrow should be fun.

With Morton pitching today, no one will know if any hit batters are intentional if his control is anything like it was in his first start. Think he hit three batters in his six or so innings of work. Just a bit wild.

SportsAndLady

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Jun 18, 2013 8:35am

Heretic;1459271 wrote:Just a bit wild.

This is what Chapman is...wild. But, he throws 100MPH, so he's just intentionally trying to hit the batter. :rolleyes:

SportsAndLady

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Jun 18, 2013 8:51am

Azubuike24;1458845 wrote:Liriano vs Leake, advantage Pirates

Not sure you can put any pitcher Leake faces the rest of the way as an advantage over him. He's been lights out. ERA creeping towards 2. Well under 2 ERA in his last 10 starts.

This Saturday's game (on FOX) will be great in Arizona. Leake vs 9-0 Corbin.

Heretic

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Jun 18, 2013 9:38am

SportsAndLady;1459281 wrote:Not sure you can put any pitcher Leake faces the rest of the way as an advantage over him. He's been lights out. ERA creeping towards 2. Well under 2 ERA in his last 10 starts.

This Saturday's game (on FOX) will be great in Arizona. Leake vs 9-0 Corbin.

Yeah, last night's match-up, on paper, probably was a wash. Liriano's numbers were slightly better in a smaller body of work and both him and Leake are doing much better than their overall career body of work (all of it for Leake; everything but the very beginning of his career for Liriano).

Tonight on the other hand favors the Reds by a decent margin. Especially since you guys put Broxton on the DL, so he can't fuck up Latos' start for you for once this year.

Azubuike24

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Jun 18, 2013 11:02am

I don't trust Leake I don't care if he has a 0 ERA. Hopefully, he proves me wrong and has really learned how to throw.

How about Cingrani in the pen? If somehow they get Marsh and Brox back, those 2 + Cingrani and Chapman is a NASTY pen. Nasty.

I still think the Reds will acquire a left-handed reliever and another infielder for the stretch run though.

sherm03

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Jun 18, 2013 11:50am

Azubuike24;1459319 wrote:I don't trust Leake I don't care if he has a 0 ERA. Hopefully, he proves me wrong and has really learned how to throw.

How about Cingrani in the pen? If somehow they get Marsh and Brox back, those 2 + Cingrani and Chapman is a NASTY pen. Nasty.

I still think the Reds will acquire a left-handed reliever and another infielder for the stretch run though.

I agree that an additional lefty in the pen and any infielder that is not named Cesar Izturis would be good moves to make.

Rotinaj

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Jun 18, 2013 12:11pm

Love Cingrani in the pen. The face he made before the struck out the one dude was funny as hell. They replayed it a couple times.

justincredible

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Jun 18, 2013 12:15pm

Rotinaj;1459373 wrote:Love Cingrani in the pen. The face he made before the struck out the one dude was funny as hell. They replayed it a couple times.

GOAT gif.

Ironman92

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Jun 18, 2013 12:27pm

justincredible;1459379 wrote:GOAT gif.

Quick glance he resembles Bryce Harper

Ironman92

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Jun 18, 2013 12:29pm

Azubuike24;1459319 wrote:I don't trust Leake I don't care if he has a 0 ERA. Hopefully, he proves me wrong and has really learned how to throw.

How about Cingrani in the pen? If somehow they get Marsh and Brox back, those 2 + Cingrani and Chapman is a NASTY pen. Nasty.

I still think the Reds will acquire a left-handed reliever and another infielder for the stretch run though.

His stuff is iffy but I think he "gets" it. Maybe that won't take him to Maddux career or even Bronson's....but I definitely trust him.

Midstate01

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Jun 18, 2013 1:35pm

He's keeping the ball down and getting groundouts. But still every time out I wonder if its the start he implodes.

se-alum

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Jun 18, 2013 3:59pm

I feel like sometimes people forget that Leake came straight from ASU to the league. His minor league years were spent learning against the best hitters in the game, which will lead to some hard times, but it seems he has gotten through it. There will be games when he gets hammered, but he's been damn good so far.

Ironman92

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Jun 18, 2013 4:45pm

se-alum;1459493 wrote:I feel like sometimes people forget that Leake came straight from ASU to the league. His minor league years were spent learning against the best hitters in the game, which will lead to some hard times, but it seems he has gotten through it. There will be games when he gets hammered, but he's been damn good so far.

Part of the "he gets it" I'm speaking of.....no way in hell do you throw 91 mph and skip the minors unless you have some special attributes.

se-alum

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Jun 18, 2013 5:15pm

Ironman92;1459508 wrote:Part of the "he gets it" I'm speaking of.....no way in hell do you throw 91 mph and skip the minors unless you have some special attributes.

Fact of the matter is, he's never been bad for a #5 guy. Two years ago he had a sub 4.00 era over 170 innings. He was only at 4.23 his rookie season, I'll take that for a guy never pitching an inning in the minors.