 
                                                                wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:13pm
                            
                        Trueblue23;1446237 wrote:Cavs get the #1 pick in a terrible draft. That sucks.
Agreed.
 
                                                                robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:14pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1446253 wrote:Take Ben McLemore. He is going to be really, really good. And the Cavs need a wing.
Irving
Waiters
B-Mac
TT
Andy
That looks good on paper but Ben at the 3 would be a problem, way undersized and not good enough defensively from what I've seen. You would be able to evaluate more obviously.
                                        
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                                                                gport_tennis
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:14pm
                            
                        robj55;1446259 wrote:That looks good on paper but Ben at the 3 would be a problem, way undersized and not good enough defensively from what I've seen. You would be able to evaluate more obviously.
Yea I thought he was taller...only 6'4"
                                        
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                                                                slingshot4ever
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:15pm
                            
                        
                                I'm not convinced McLemore can play the 3...
                            
                         
                                                                Pick6
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:15pm
                            
                        
                                A defensive anchor is exactly what the Cavs need, especially with Kyrie's shitty D.
Also, rob, if you watched any Cavs games for the second part of the season last year, you would know TT's offensive game developed quite nicely.
                        Also, rob, if you watched any Cavs games for the second part of the season last year, you would know TT's offensive game developed quite nicely.
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:15pm
                            
                        No it's true, he's not a very good defensive player. But the work ethic is there and I don't think he worked very hard on his defensive game at KU. He obviously would need to do that in the NBA. He has the athletic ability, so I don't see why he couldn't improve defensively.robj55;1446259 wrote:That looks good on paper but Ben at the 3 would be a problem, way undersized and not good enough defensively from what I've seen. You would be able to evaluate more obviously.
 
                                                                Midstate01
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:17pm
                            
                        Pick6;1446242 wrote:@WindhorstESPN: With cap space, 2 first round picks & interest in improving fast, the Cavs will investigate trade options with No. 1 pick
Cant blame them for exploring options..Im sure somebody out there really likes Noel.
Love this!! Trade and you have so many options. Could end up with 3 first rounders..could maybe just move back a few spots. Lots of options. I think Noel would be great defensively for mike brown. But you can't have no offense from your big men.
 
                                                                Trueblue23
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:19pm
                            
                        
                                 @chadfordinsider Sneak peak at Top 5.  1. Cavs - Noel 2. Magic - Burke 3. Wizards - Porter 4. Bobcats - McLemore 5. Suns - Oladipo
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:19pm
                            
                        
                                I'm perfectly happy with Andy, Zeller, and TT for the 4 and 5.
                            
                         
                                                                wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:20pm
                            
                        
                                Wow....burke is projected that high?!  I mean, he is good, but wow
                            
                         
                                                                robj55
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:21pm
                            
                        I did catch a few games but to me he is still raw and very mechanical with his footwork. I think a lot of that was due to situation, with all the injuries and Kyrie being hurt he was featured a lot more. That won't be the case when everyone is healthy so his holes will show when he has to be efficient night in and night out. Not saying he hasn't improved at all because he has, but marginally based on what I've seen. Thing is though, if you can get a center to pair with him that can score on the block then Tristan can just do what he is good at, rebound and block shots, without that I don't see him becoming what he can become, as that would allow him to just play a role. Unfortunately I don't think Nerlens would be the guy to do that for him.Pick6;1446262 wrote:A defensive anchor is exactly what the Cavs need, especially with Kyrie's ****ty D.
Also, rob, if you watched any Cavs games for the second part of the season last year, you would know TT's offensive game developed quite nicely.
 
                                                                Pick6
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:21pm
                            
                        Im happy if Andy is healthy. Im not happy with a guy who has missed 120+ games the past 3 seasons.SportsAndLady;1446270 wrote:I'm perfectly happy with Andy, Zeller, and TT for the 4 and 5.
 
                                                                wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:23pm
                            
                        Pick6;1446274 wrote:Im happy if Andy is healthy. Im not happy with a guy who has missed 120+ games the past 3 seasons.
Hopefully they trade him before the inevitable season ending injury
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:24pm
                            
                        Yet you wanna take Nerlens?Pick6;1446274 wrote:Im happy if Andy is healthy. Im not happy with a guy who has missed 120+ games the past 3 seasons.
 
                                                                Pick6
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:28pm
                            
                        To my knowledge, Nerlens only injury was an injury where he blocked a shot and then landed into the support of a basketball hoop. That's about as freak of an injury as there is.SportsAndLady;1446280 wrote:Yet you wanna take Nerlens?
 
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:38pm
                            
                        No a freak injury is Kyrie's toe injury at Duke.Pick6;1446285 wrote:To my knowledge, Nerlens only injury was an injury where he blocked a shot and then landed into the support of a basketball hoop. That's about as freak of an injury as there is.
Falling on your incredibly skinny knees and tearing your ACL is not a freak injury.
 
                                                                bases_loaded
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:38pm
                            
                        
                                @clubtrillion: Cavs draft Noel. He rehabs all year. Win lottery again & get Wiggins. Oden signs. LeBron comes back. 5 #1 overall picks in '14. Done & done.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Sonofanump
                                                                    
                                May 21, 2013 9:43pm
                            
                        Why? You would rather have the #3 pick in a terrible draft?Trueblue23;1446237 wrote:Cavs get the #1 pick in a terrible draft. That sucks.
 
                                                                Hb31187
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:44pm
                            
                        Yeah he's consistently been top 5 in mocks. his game IMO mirrors CP3 exactly almostwes_mantooth;1446272 wrote:Wow....burke is projected that high?! I mean, he is good, but wow
 
                                                                Pick6
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:44pm
                            
                        Agree to disagree then. Its not like he was cutting on it and it tore. He fell into a basket support.SportsAndLady;1446291 wrote:No a freak injury is Kyrie's toe injury at Duke.
Falling on your incredibly skinny knees and tearing your ACL is not a freak injury.
 
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:45pm
                            
                        
                                I really don't want Noel. Best thing to do is try and trade it for a young proven player such as love. I honestly would rather go porter or mclemore
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:48pm
                            
                        
                                I'd be perfectly fine w/ taking Porter #1 overall, if we can't trade out of the first pick.
                            
                         
                                                                Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 9:57pm
                            
                        SportsAndLady;1446301 wrote:I'd be perfectly fine w/ taking Porter #1 overall, if we can't trade out of the first pick.
I agree. We are almost at that point where we really can't take bpa.
 
                                                                Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 10:19pm
                            
                        
                                Still want Porter. 
Also S&L
Jesus..you live such a sad miserable life.
Always so mad and negative. /S&L
                        Also S&L
Jesus..you live such a sad miserable life.
Always so mad and negative. /S&L
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                May 21, 2013 10:21pm
                            
                        Explain why...ccrunner609;1446316 wrote:Porter is a bust pick.