I agree.reclegend22;1584550 wrote:Syracuse is not the best team in the ACC. Have you seen them play the past four weeks? This is a first or second round NCAA loss waiting to happen.
Duke and Virginia are really close. The Cavs are really playing well. I am relieved Duke does not have to travel to Charlottesville, because they'd have no chance there. I think Virginia takes Syracuse down another peg on Saturday.wildcats20;1584551 wrote:I agree.
I would say the Dookies are the best team followed by UVA. I honestly believe, especially with the way BOTH teams are playing now, that Cuse and Carolina are very equal. And if there was a return visit to Chapel Hill this year, the Heels would take it.
The top 4 is very good in the ACC.
Okie State won't even make the dance. I agree.Fly4Fun;1584529 wrote:Is Oklahoma State even a tournament team? They'll be sub .500 in conference if they don't win out ( vs. Kansas, KSU, and @ Iowa State). Losing 8 of 9 games will kill a teams resume.
I think they're in..I haven't looked at any bracketology's but NINE of their 10 losses against RPI top 45 teams. That one loss was @ Texas Tech. TT is a decent 13-14 team lol Only bad loss was to Alabama on the road.Azubuike24;1584569 wrote:Okie State won't even make the dance. I agree.
They will have 3 more losses.
Teams with 12 conference losses don't make the dance.SportsAndLady;1584576 wrote:I think they're in..I haven't looked at any bracketology's but NINE of their 10 losses against RPI top 45 teams. That one loss was @ Texas Tech. TT is a decent 13-14 team lol Only bad loss was to Alabama on the road.
They win 1 more in the regular season and 1 in the conf. tourney, that's 20-13. With 12 of the 13 losses to RPI top 50 teams. They'd be in.Azubuike24;1584582 wrote:Teams with 12 conference losses don't make the dance.
Unless you feel Okie State beats KU, then I simply don't see them NOT losing 3 more.
1. Kansas
2. Iowa State or Kansas State
3. Big XII Tournament
Makes it a tough call then. Unprecedented mix of bad and good...SportsAndLady;1584583 wrote:They win 1 more in the regular season and 1 in the conf. tourney, that's 20-13. With 12 of the 13 losses to RPI top 50 teams. They'd be in.
No team has made it in with 12 conference losses (I'm assuming), but no team has ever had that many losses to good teams.
I can see that argument. There's no question, though, that Duke, Virginia and North Carolina are the hottest teams in the ACC at the moment. Syracuse has been absolutely pedestrian the past month and, based on their NCAA history in recent years, I don't see much of a future for this team in March.Azubuike24;1584567 wrote:UNC they way they are playing now and the way they played for a stretch in December is better than UVA.
Surprisingly, people are thinking because of the new rules, UVA will be a tough out this year...Final Four type out.
I disagree. If they get to 20 wins, with that schedule, no way the committee leaves them out.reclegend22;1584586 wrote:OKlahoma State might get in, but they certainly don't deserve to be as of right now. They'll need to finish at least .500 in the conference, and with their remaining schedule that means winning all three games against Kansas, K-State and @Iowa State. Not gonna happen. Even if they pull that off, the coaching just isn't there to make a deep tourney run. Marcus Smart would have to play out of his mind.
There are some similarities IMO between Oklahoma State this year and Baylor last year. Last season (like this season lol), the Bears were incredibly talented and played a difficult schedule nationally but underperformed to the level of that talent and finished with 13 losses in the regular-season (including 9-9 in the Big XII). In the end, that got Baylor a trip to the NIT.SportsAndLady;1584594 wrote:I disagree. If they get to 20 wins, with that schedule, no way the committee leaves them out.
I do agree that they may not deserve it, because they play so much below their potential, but they also got to 20 wins with what will be 20 games against top 100 opponents. That's not great, but it's not NIT-worthy.
For what it's worth, Baylor, a similar underachieving team to Oklahoma State this year, had a SOS of 34 last year and, despite finishing with a .500 record in the Big XII and a couple of great non-conference wins including at Kentucky, the Bears were left out.Midstate01;1584633 wrote:Okie state sos is only 42. So for playing so many top 50 games they must have played even more non top 50 games. Osu played a awful awful schedule in ooc and their sos is 17
Okie is 6-9 vs top 100
3-9 vs top 50
Ok State has 16 games against RPI 50+. Arizona has 16 games against RPI 50+. Ohio State 18 games. Florida 20 games.Midstate01;1584633 wrote:Okie state sos is only 42. So for playing so many top 50 games they must have played even more non top 50 games. Osu played a awful awful schedule in ooc and their sos is 17
Most bubble teams don't get it done against top 100 teams. Ok State is 6-9. Providence is 6-9. St Johns is 5-9. Tennessee 7-9. None of them get it done against top 100 teams.Midstate01;1584664 wrote:Point was they are not doing very well against top 100 teams. I personally like okie state and think they have the players to actually play well but they haven't done it when they've had the chances against top 100 teams.
As of right now they're in, according to lunardi. That's why I picked them.Azubuike24;1584718 wrote:None of those last 3 deserve NCAA bids either...