Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 6, 2013 10:01pm
Nobody is saying he is lying. We are saying he is a *****. THE DOCTOR CLEARED HIM.Right. The Bulls paid him 20 million this year to put his ass on the bench Great investment.Automatik;1439175 wrote:So you think he's lying? Again, if it's not right, it's not right.
You forget that Derrick Rose is an investment. There is no reason to rush it. None.
I bet you people were the also calling Crosby a bitch when he was sitting for so long after having his brain scrambled.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
May 6, 2013 10:01pm
He's been cleared 2 months after a first round ACL injury, he's a guard who relies heavily in athleticism and slashing. sound familiar?......his name's Iman Shumpert, but apparently Drose heals at an extremely slow pace.
Ive torn both ACL's I know its hard to go back to trusting your knee and not thinkin twice about it...but come the fuck on, its been over a year and u have the best drs and rehab in the world
Ive torn both ACL's I know its hard to go back to trusting your knee and not thinkin twice about it...but come the fuck on, its been over a year and u have the best drs and rehab in the world
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 6, 2013 10:03pm
You rush him, he's not ready...another injury, then you are really fucked. Also, he's not getting 20 mil.
I was actually just texting w/ a friend in Chicago...rumblings are a good chance he'll be back this series.
I was actually just texting w/ a friend in Chicago...rumblings are a good chance he'll be back this series.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 6, 2013 10:05pm
Telling the truth and being a ***** are mutually exclusive concepts?Automatik;1439175 wrote:So you think he's lying? Again, if it's not right, it's not right.
You forget that Derrick Rose is an investment. There is no reason to rush it. None.
I bet you people were the also calling Crosby a bitch when he was sitting for so long after having his brain scrambled.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 6, 2013 10:08pm
So saying your knee doesn't feel right always implies someone is being a bitch?Mulva;1439182 wrote:Telling the truth and being a ***** are mutually exclusive concepts?
Please tell me what injuries you overcame and returned at a high level? ACL? Broken toe?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 6, 2013 10:11pm
Automatik;1439184 wrote:So saying your knee doesn't feel right always implies someone is being a bitch?
Please tell me what injuries you overcame and returned at a high level? ACL? Broken toe?
This is all speculation, but do you think if Kobe was cleared....he would play immediately even if he had doubts? Just curious...I think Rose is and has always been a mental *****...even in the Memphis days
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
May 6, 2013 10:14pm
Well I'm guessing the doctor who cleared him has plenty of experience with injuries. Just a hunch. If he was cleared 2 weeks ago and still didn't feel right then I'd have no problem, but 2 months???Automatik;1439184 wrote:So saying your knee doesn't feel right always implies someone is being a bitch?
Please tell me what injuries you overcame and returned at a high level? ACL? Broken toe?
G
Gblock
May 6, 2013 10:15pm
Kobe never missed a season with a torn acl however we will get to see you test your theory when he tries to come back from achilles..I bet he doesn't rush it like his other wrist and thumb injuries
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 6, 2013 10:16pm
Absolutely, but that's Kobe. Not the same.wes_mantooth;1439188 wrote:This is all speculation, but do you think if Kobe was cleared....he would play immediately even if he had doubts? Just curious...I think Rose is and has always been a mental *****...even in the Memphis days
My stance is dealing completely with the injury. If it were a wrist, shoulder, or something less involved I would totally be on his ass. I just feel with an injury like that you can't rush it, especially when he's already sat this long. Again, I would have shelved him for the season just to get rid of any distractions that come with this discussion.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
May 6, 2013 10:18pm
Automatik;1439192 wrote:Absolutely, but that's Kobe. Not the same.
My stance is dealing completely with the injury. If it were a wrist, shoulder, or something less involved I would totally be on his ass. I just feel with an injury like that you can't rush it, especially when he's already sat this long. Again, I would have shelved him for the season just to get rid of any distractions that come with this discussion.
I do agree that the bulls should have stepped in and shut him down for pr reasons
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 6, 2013 10:19pm
sorry, its 16 million.Automatik;1439180 wrote:You rush him, he's not ready...another injury, then you are really fucked. Also, he's not getting 20 mil.
I was actually just texting w/ a friend in Chicago...rumblings are a good chance he'll be back this series.
I was looking up some videos about him working out, and there was also good optimism that he would be back "sooner than later" on February 25th.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
May 6, 2013 10:24pm
Very odd comparison but reminds me of Maverick after Goose died. Just couldn't get back in the game. D Rose is holding on too tight, he's lost his edge, Lol
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 6, 2013 10:25pm
SportsAndLady;1439131 wrote: Being a former mathlete, you'd have to rip my leg off for me not to go out there.
I see
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 6, 2013 10:27pm
No and completely irrelevant.Automatik;1439184 wrote:So saying your knee doesn't feel right always implies someone is being a bitch?
Please tell me what injuries you overcame and returned at a high level? ACL? Broken toe?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 6, 2013 10:28pm
....ernest_t_bass;1439204 wrote:I see
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 6, 2013 10:32pm
The bulls actually have an insurance policy on Rose. If he doesn't play a game this season, they get his salary this year back (the owner gets it; it's not a salary bump).Pick6;1439178 wrote:Nobody is saying he is lying. We are saying he is a *****. THE DOCTOR CLEARED HIM.Right. The Bulls paid him 20 million this year to put his ass on the bench Great investment.
So no the Bulls aren't paying him 16 million to sit on the bench.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 6, 2013 10:33pm
I was actually very good at mathernest_t_bass;1439204 wrote:I see
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 6, 2013 10:35pm
SportsAndLady;1439219 wrote:I was actually very good at math
Congratulations.
Per thread: Rose should sit.
G
Gblock
May 6, 2013 10:38pm
RgIII Got cleared too
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Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
May 6, 2013 10:38pm
:laugh:Shut up lol.like_that;1439158 wrote:Oh man, such a tough guy!!!
Anyway, if I am a coach and my player still seems passive about his major injury, I don't want him to play. He would probably hurt the team more than help since he hasn't played all year, and also if you go out passive, you are setting yourself up to be injured again.
And Gblock I think I got the thumbs mixed up
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 6, 2013 10:45pm
Gblock;1439226 wrote:RgIII Got cleared too
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umm...no he didnt?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/06/dr-andrews-says-rg3-was-never-cleared-to-re-enter-game/
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 6, 2013 10:49pm
Oh jesus, if we are going to nitpick every little thing, they are paying him 10million to sit on the bench. The insurance has covered 6 million.SportsAndLady;1439217 wrote:The bulls actually have an insurance policy on Rose. If he doesn't play a game this season, they get his salary this year back (the owner gets it; it's not a salary bump).
So no the Bulls aren't paying him 16 million to sit on the bench.
The Bulls dont care about the insurance policy. Rose is the one saying he isnt ready, not the FO, owner, trainer, whatever.
G
Gblock
May 6, 2013 10:49pm
Pick6;1439234 wrote:He never should have been cleared to start the game he was hurtGblock;1439226 wrote:RgIII Got cleared too
/thread[/QUOTE
umm...no he didnt?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/06/dr-andrews-says-rg3-was-never-cleared-to-re-enter-game/
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 7, 2013 8:19am
Link to the 6 million figure?Pick6;1439237 wrote:Oh jesus, if we are going to nitpick every little thing, they are paying him 10million to sit on the bench. The insurance has covered 6 million.
The Bulls dont care about the insurance policy. Rose is the one saying he isnt ready, not the FO, owner, trainer, whatever.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
May 7, 2013 8:41am
SportsAndLady;1439323 wrote:Link to the 6 million figure?
http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=chicagobulls&id=13432&city=chicago