justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:21am
Apparently a kid pulled out a gun and tried to kill himself in class this morning.
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130429/NEWS0107/304290050/One-person-reportedly-shot-LaSalle-High-School?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20130429/NEWS0107/304290050/One-person-reportedly-shot-LaSalle-High-School?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Apr 29, 2013 10:25am
More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:27am
Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.WebFire;1435533 wrote:More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 29, 2013 10:28am
We are we are, the youth of the nat-ion.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 29, 2013 10:29am
A big reason I can't facebook anymore. It's just a constant stream of stupidity anytime there's an event like this.justincredible;1435534 wrote:Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.
redstreak one
Posts: 1,152
Apr 29, 2013 10:30am
That would be a tragic thing to witness for anyone, especially young people.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:31am
I try to stay away from comment sections on stories like this but I let my guard down. This will keep me from checking any others for a while.dlazz;1435537 wrote:A big reason I can't facebook anymore. It's just a constant stream of stupidity anytime there's an event like this.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:32am
Absolutely. It's an absolute shame that this young man thought that suicide was the answer, but worse than that, that he decided to bring a bunch of his peers into it.redstreak one;1435538 wrote:That would be a tragic thing to witness for anyone, especially young people.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 29, 2013 10:33am
Status updates from random people are just as bad though. I trashed my Facebook months ago, but from what I hear from friends it's that it was a complete shitshow when the Newtown shooting went down.justincredible;1435539 wrote:I try to stay away from comment sections on stories like this but I let my guard down. This will keep me from checking any others for a while.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:39am
I definitely think less of some of my friends and acquaintances because of facebook.dlazz;1435542 wrote:Status updates from random people are just as bad though. I trashed my Facebook months ago, but from what I hear from friends it's that it was a complete shitshow when the Newtown shooting went down.
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Apr 29, 2013 10:49am
I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to itWebFire;1435533 wrote:More background checks would have prevented this. That, or a ban on 30 round "clips", because once you shoot them they are gone.
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MontyBrunswick
Apr 29, 2013 10:51am
The background checks in place right now are sufficient to weed out 99% of the people who shouldn't have guns. Further background checks might prevent 0.00001% more people from buying guns, but it isn't the problem.Hb31187;1435551 wrote:I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to it
If someone wants a gun bad enough, they're going to get their hands on one (stealing, having someone else buy it, etc).
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 29, 2013 10:52am
jeremy spoke in class, todaydlazz;1435535 wrote:We are we are, the youth of the nat-ion.
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 10:53am
There are threads in the poli forum discussing this. But I am 100% against any further background checks. dlazz hit on it pretty well.Hb31187;1435551 wrote:I know that obviously this is sarcastic. But are you against further background checks? If so, just curious as to why? Because it seriously harms no law abiding citizen to have more extensive background checks before purchasing a gun so I dont really understand the resistance to it
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Apr 29, 2013 10:53am
Agreed.justincredible;1435541 wrote:Absolutely. It's an absolute shame that this young man thought that suicide was the answer, but worse than that, that he decided to bring a bunch of his peers into it.
Interesting you mention FB. As I listen to young people (young whippersnappers, if you'd like), I'm amazed that they tease each other concerning the low number of "likes" "hits" "views" or "followers" one has. It all seems very attention seeking to me. ...much like walking into a classroom or cafeteria and attempting suicide as opposed to staying in seclusion and doing it.
Oh well. Maybe an isolated and unrelated case to my narcissism conspiracy theory.
mcburg93
Posts: 3,167
Apr 29, 2013 11:06am
I hate hearing or seeing things like this happening. It pisses me off that people would even do this to their families. Ugg its just disgusting.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 29, 2013 11:14am
cruiser_96;1435557 wrote:Agreed.
Interesting you mention FB. As I listen to young people (young whippersnappers, if you'd like), I'm amazed that they tease each other concerning the low number of "likes" "hits" "views" or "followers" one has. It all seems very attention seeking to me. ...much like walking into a classroom or cafeteria and attempting suicide as opposed to staying in seclusion and doing it.
Oh well. Maybe an isolated and unrelated case to my narcissism conspiracy theory.
You're comparing likes on facebook to attempting suicide in a school cafeteria?
cruiser_96
Posts: 7,536
Apr 29, 2013 11:18am
Not even close! Ha. But that made me chuckle.SportsAndLady;1435570 wrote:You're comparing likes on facebook to attempting suicide in a school cafeteria?
My point was the number of coversations I hear on a daily basis concerning some poor kid only having 38 followers on twitter answers the question of why walk into a filled cafeteria? Why not do it in your room. One word: Attention. Gotta have the views, the likes, the followers, the looks ... the attention. Can't get attention by shooting yourself in a room. Ya gotta go somewhere in public!
justincredible
Posts: 32,056
Apr 29, 2013 11:21am
I definitely understood the parallel you were trying to make.cruiser_96;1435575 wrote:Not even close! Ha. But that made me chuckle.
My point was the number of coversations I hear on a daily basis concerning some poor kid only having 38 followers on twitter answers the question of why walk into a filled cafeteria? Why not do it in your room. One word: Attention. Gotta have the views, the likes, the followers, the looks ... the attention. Can't get attention by shooting yourself in a room. Ya gotta go somewhere in public!
tk421
Posts: 8,500
Apr 29, 2013 11:47am
If by gun control they mean hitting your target, I'll get behind that. The only gun control we need is awareness of gun owners to securely control access and availability to your guns. Don't know how this kid got the gun, but parents especially need a safe.justincredible;1435534 wrote:Cincinnati Enquirer posted the story on facebook. The third comment was "Gun control now." I facepalm'd.
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 29, 2013 11:52am
The sad thing about suicide is that it's "contagious." When one person does it, typically there are more to follow. Generally people don't think of it as a "solution" to their problems until someone else does it. And then once others realize it's an option, then they may take the same course of action and repeat the same mistake.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 29, 2013 12:06pm
What makes you say that?Fly4Fun;1435591 wrote:The sad thing about suicide is that it's "contagious." When one person does it, typically there are more to follow. Generally people don't think of it as a "solution" to their problems until someone else does it. And then once others realize it's an option, then they may take the same course of action and repeat the same mistake.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 29, 2013 12:33pm
It's bad enough that this kid felt that suicide was the answer, but thank God he didn't decide to take others with him. How many times over the last few years have we encountered that scenario... 
Fly4Fun
Posts: 7,730
Apr 29, 2013 12:35pm
Because there are different studies that point to the idea that suicide is contagious in the sense that is clustered in time and space.Commander of Awesome;1435594 wrote:What makes you say that?
Different academic, peer reviewed papers have been published about this idea. And they have been approached it from different viewpoints such as a celebrity/athlete suicide leading to the rise in suicides, or if a family member or friend commits suicide, that often leads to an increase in likelihood of suicide, or as a workplace phenomenon.
I just don't have the different articles I've read available at the moment, but there is information out there if you are curious. Most of what I read was either related to my psych undergrad or a law and social sciences class in law school.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 29, 2013 1:46pm
I've never heard of suicide being "contagiuous".